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      ilovethesea @Peatful
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      @Peatful So Grant’s book Poisoning for Profits is dated 2017... https://ggenereux.blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/poisoningforprofits.pdf

      By the end of 2018 Garrett Smith had ripped off the idea and was promoting it on Matt’s site:
      https://180degreehealth.com/vitamin-depletion-discussion-dr-garrett-smith/

      But Garrett didn’t have anything about vitamin A on his own website until late 2019, when he started selling his “vitamin A detox” program.
      https://web.archive.org/web/20200627074214/https://nutritionrestored.com/

      Josh at Cutting Through the Fog (likely controlled) “seeded” the idea into conspiracy circles in 2018:
      https://cuttingthroughthefogcom.wordpress.com/2018/12/26/health-matters/comment-page-3/
      Also wrote about it on Medium in 2019:
      https://medium.com/@joshg99/i-believe-a-canadian-engineer-named-grant-genereux-has-discovered-the-primary-cause-of-auto-immune-d636d4e4b272

      As for the user “franko” who introduced the Grant Genereux thread on RPF, he started a log here in 2015 https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/frankos-log.6584/ but he only posted about 10 times before coming back in 2018 to say “Peating did not work” and then introduced Grant Genereux there too.

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        ilovethesea @Peatful
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        @Peatful @Regina
        Re: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_manifestos_of_mass_killers maybe they’re setting the stage for another fake shooting and the “killer” will mention he was a follower of Ray Peat.

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          Barghest @ilovethesea
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          @ilovethesea damn i've considered the same, it would work well since there is already all those sites talking about Ray Peat being a "far-right quack", he's been mentioned by types like mercola making the larger population aware of him, and now that he has a larger following it would be a good time to destroy him and vilify his ideas, it's clearly the low serotonin making them into killers. Things really ramped up since his death.

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            Regina @ilovethesea
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            @ilovethesea 😰 😱

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              raypneat
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              https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/ray-peat-gave-me-his-blessing-to-start-the-ray-peat-forum-full-permission-was-granted.52692

              It seems now Charlie is citing messages from ray peat that he can't even confirm. And knowing well ray peat can't deny these messages are real.

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                Peatful @ilovethesea
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                @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                @Peatful So Grant’s book Poisoning for Profits is dated 2017... https://ggenereux.blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/poisoningforprofits.pdf

                By the end of 2018 Garrett Smith had ripped off the idea and was promoting it on Matt’s site:
                https://180degreehealth.com/vitamin-depletion-discussion-dr-garrett-smith/

                But Garrett didn’t have anything about vitamin A on his own website until late 2019, when he started selling his “vitamin A detox” program.
                https://web.archive.org/web/20200627074214/https://nutritionrestored.com/

                Josh at Cutting Through the Fog (likely controlled) “seeded” the idea into conspiracy circles in 2018:
                https://cuttingthroughthefogcom.wordpress.com/2018/12/26/health-matters/comment-page-3/
                Also wrote about it on Medium in 2019:
                https://medium.com/@joshg99/i-believe-a-canadian-engineer-named-grant-genereux-has-discovered-the-primary-cause-of-auto-immune-d636d4e4b272

                As for the user “franko” who introduced the Grant Genereux thread on RPF, he started a log here in 2015 https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/frankos-log.6584/ but he only posted about 10 times before coming back in 2018 to say “Peating did not work” and then introduced Grant Genereux there too.

                Great reporting
                Thank you very much

                One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                -DB

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                  A Former User @bot-mod
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                  @ThinPicking

                  Took me a while... According to public records, David has no political party affiliation.

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                    CO2
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                    That apparent email from Peat is completely fake because he doesn't talk like that, if you have ever corresponded with Peat you would know.

                    Charlie has a plethora of accounts on the forum pretending to be other people replying and agreeing with himself.

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                      A Former User @raypneat
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                      @raypneat

                      Among all of the other reasons it seems fake, it seems odd that Ray Peat would suggest these goals to a stranger simply wanting to start a discussion board about his research into health issues. Why would he want Charlie to have an agenda and/or to think about disestablishing medicine (which I think he said once when asked if he had an end goal) for people looking for alternative health info? These are pretty good motives for the medical industrial complex and big pharma to be threatened however.

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                        TheRealPeater @ilovethesea
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                        @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                        @Barghest @TheRealPeater there might be some more on Miles M if you search the Darkside chat, I remember seeing something about the fallout between him and Josh a while back. I just know his story sounds fake as hell... he’s a broke artist, supposedly makes a living from people commissioning his paintings, and then somehow has time to research and write multiple 20 page documents per week on every hoax throughout history and all the genealogy.

                        Here’s Josh claiming Grant Genereux is the “Miles Mathis of nutrition” https://cuttingthroughthefogcom.wordpress.com/2018/05/08/defending-miles-mathis/comment-page-19/#comment-11534

                        Thanks I will read that later!

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                          Peatful @CO2
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                          @CO2 “a plethora of accounts”

                          Yep

                          What got me banned was stating that HERE (on the BEF) about a month ago

                          Now I understand why….

                          One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                          -DB

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                            CO2 @Peatful
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                            @Peatful charlie banned you on the rpf for something you said here?

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                              Peatful @CO2
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                              @CO2 yes. Correct.

                              One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                              -DB

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                                S.Holmes @CO2
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                                @CO2 said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                @Peatful charlie banned you on the rpf for something you said here?

                                I too was banned from the RPF for comments made here. I was informed that we were being "watched." Not creepy at all. 😒

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                                  CO2
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                                  That's crazy. When I went to sign up here someone had already taken my rpf name and has been posting, not sure if people are impersonating accounts from the other forum here but I probably wouldn't have used the same name anyway considering that lunatic charlie would be monitoring this forum.

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                                    chosroes @Kvothe
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                                    @Kvothe said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                    Yeah, Charles definitely doesn't have any alt accounts 👥
                                    Quite amazing how he seems to be unable to even slightly alter his writting style/choice of words.

                                    https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/i-was-skeptical-at-first-too-but-the-changes-really-are-astounding.52699/

                                    While dumping toxins is of course generally awesome, avoiding carrots and eating beans does have the unfortunate side-effect of introducing particular spelling errors in the writings of the newly converted

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                                    Feel like I've been seeing the similarly peculiar "low and behold" used a bit too much in the RPF posts since this weird stuff has been going on

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                                      risingfire
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                                      Funny how the times have changed - Dr. Garret Smith right again

                                      Charlie sounds unhinged in "the toxins always win."

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                                        ilovethesea @Barghest
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                                        @Barghest yes and Dave Asprey mentioned Ray the other day too!

                                        They’re now calling us paranoid haters... of course vitamin A causes that too! We’re “toxic and deficient”
                                        https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/i-was-skeptical-at-first-too-but-the-changes-really-are-astounding.52699/page-3

                                        Shocked that Memphisto didn’t get banned yet, he got away with saying much more than any of us were allowed to. Meanwhile Christ lady insisting that she hasn’t seen anyone disrespecting Ray... you have to laugh.

                                        @C-Mex your post disappeared for some reason but I had the same thought, it’s very convenient for the ruling class to be able to blame “genetics” to cover up environmental poisoning. So maybe this vitamin A idea is the same thing.

                                        @risingfire it was only a matter of time before he’d make a Garrett banner. I hate his boomer hat tip emoji as well 🤮

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                                          A Former User @ilovethesea
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                                          @ilovethesea

                                          Yes, I deleted my post this morning after reading the article you posted and realized I had posted something that was way down in the comments section but not the article, and wanted to recompose my thoughts. I've just seen more of this over on RPF though. Apparently the claim is that Vitamin A and copper make you an 'antenna' for EMF (and glyphosate damage, and vaccine injury and [fill in the inconvenient research topic]. I think it is a way to obfuscate and confuse and cast doubt on research that Ray Peat talked about early on that is now gaining a wider acceptance. They've studied our posts on RPF for years, IMO, and know the language and how to throw in a thing or two about Bill Gates, controlled opposition or a global agenda to make it sound like they're right in there with us, but talk as though they're uncovering the real truth that Ray Peat and the rest of us failed to see and now we're so vitamin A and copper-toxic that we're downright paranoid and really should be minding our own business.

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                                            Kvothe @chosroes
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                                            @chosroes The "per say" is a nice one. His lies are as well crafted as those of 6 year old.

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