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    raypneat
    last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 3:20 AM

    https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/ray-peat-gave-me-his-blessing-to-start-the-ray-peat-forum-full-permission-was-granted.52692

    It seems now Charlie is citing messages from ray peat that he can't even confirm. And knowing well ray peat can't deny these messages are real.

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      Peatful @ilovethesea
      last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 5:09 AM

      @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

      @Peatful So Grant’s book Poisoning for Profits is dated 2017... https://ggenereux.blog/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/poisoningforprofits.pdf

      By the end of 2018 Garrett Smith had ripped off the idea and was promoting it on Matt’s site:
      https://180degreehealth.com/vitamin-depletion-discussion-dr-garrett-smith/

      But Garrett didn’t have anything about vitamin A on his own website until late 2019, when he started selling his “vitamin A detox” program.
      https://web.archive.org/web/20200627074214/https://nutritionrestored.com/

      Josh at Cutting Through the Fog (likely controlled) “seeded” the idea into conspiracy circles in 2018:
      https://cuttingthroughthefogcom.wordpress.com/2018/12/26/health-matters/comment-page-3/
      Also wrote about it on Medium in 2019:
      https://medium.com/@joshg99/i-believe-a-canadian-engineer-named-grant-genereux-has-discovered-the-primary-cause-of-auto-immune-d636d4e4b272

      As for the user “franko” who introduced the Grant Genereux thread on RPF, he started a log here in 2015 https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/frankos-log.6584/ but he only posted about 10 times before coming back in 2018 to say “Peating did not work” and then introduced Grant Genereux there too.

      Great reporting
      Thank you very much

      The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

      SD

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        A Former User @bot-mod
        last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 6:09 AM

        @ThinPicking

        Took me a while... According to public records, David has no political party affiliation.

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          CO2
          last edited by CO2 Feb 28, 2024, 7:00 AM Feb 28, 2024, 6:59 AM

          That apparent email from Peat is completely fake because he doesn't talk like that, if you have ever corresponded with Peat you would know.

          Charlie has a plethora of accounts on the forum pretending to be other people replying and agreeing with himself.

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            A Former User @raypneat
            last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 7:47 AM

            @raypneat

            Among all of the other reasons it seems fake, it seems odd that Ray Peat would suggest these goals to a stranger simply wanting to start a discussion board about his research into health issues. Why would he want Charlie to have an agenda and/or to think about disestablishing medicine (which I think he said once when asked if he had an end goal) for people looking for alternative health info? These are pretty good motives for the medical industrial complex and big pharma to be threatened however.

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              TheRealPeater @ilovethesea
              last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 9:08 AM

              @ilovethesea said in New "Mission" of RPF:

              @Barghest @TheRealPeater there might be some more on Miles M if you search the Darkside chat, I remember seeing something about the fallout between him and Josh a while back. I just know his story sounds fake as hell... he’s a broke artist, supposedly makes a living from people commissioning his paintings, and then somehow has time to research and write multiple 20 page documents per week on every hoax throughout history and all the genealogy.

              Here’s Josh claiming Grant Genereux is the “Miles Mathis of nutrition” https://cuttingthroughthefogcom.wordpress.com/2018/05/08/defending-miles-mathis/comment-page-19/#comment-11534

              Thanks I will read that later!

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                Peatful @CO2
                last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 11:19 AM

                @CO2 “a plethora of accounts”

                Yep

                What got me banned was stating that HERE (on the BEF) about a month ago

                Now I understand why….

                The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                SD

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                  CO2 @Peatful
                  last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 11:50 AM

                  @Peatful charlie banned you on the rpf for something you said here?

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                    Peatful @CO2
                    last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 12:53 PM

                    @CO2 yes. Correct.

                    The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                    SD

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                      S.Holmes @CO2
                      last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 2:19 PM

                      @CO2 said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                      @Peatful charlie banned you on the rpf for something you said here?

                      I too was banned from the RPF for comments made here. I was informed that we were being "watched." Not creepy at all. 😒

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                        CO2
                        last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 4:18 PM

                        That's crazy. When I went to sign up here someone had already taken my rpf name and has been posting, not sure if people are impersonating accounts from the other forum here but I probably wouldn't have used the same name anyway considering that lunatic charlie would be monitoring this forum.

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                          chosroes @Kvothe
                          last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 4:31 PM

                          @Kvothe said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                          Yeah, Charles definitely doesn't have any alt accounts 👥
                          Quite amazing how he seems to be unable to even slightly alter his writting style/choice of words.

                          https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/i-was-skeptical-at-first-too-but-the-changes-really-are-astounding.52699/

                          While dumping toxins is of course generally awesome, avoiding carrots and eating beans does have the unfortunate side-effect of introducing particular spelling errors in the writings of the newly converted

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                          Feel like I've been seeing the similarly peculiar "low and behold" used a bit too much in the RPF posts since this weird stuff has been going on

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                            risingfire
                            last edited by risingfire Feb 28, 2024, 4:48 PM Feb 28, 2024, 4:47 PM

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                            Funny how the times have changed - Dr. Garret Smith right again

                            Charlie sounds unhinged in "the toxins always win."

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                              ilovethesea @Barghest
                              last edited by ilovethesea Feb 28, 2024, 7:06 PM Feb 28, 2024, 6:44 PM

                              @Barghest yes and Dave Asprey mentioned Ray the other day too!

                              They’re now calling us paranoid haters... of course vitamin A causes that too! We’re “toxic and deficient”
                              https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/i-was-skeptical-at-first-too-but-the-changes-really-are-astounding.52699/page-3

                              Shocked that Memphisto didn’t get banned yet, he got away with saying much more than any of us were allowed to. Meanwhile Christ lady insisting that she hasn’t seen anyone disrespecting Ray... you have to laugh.

                              @C-Mex your post disappeared for some reason but I had the same thought, it’s very convenient for the ruling class to be able to blame “genetics” to cover up environmental poisoning. So maybe this vitamin A idea is the same thing.

                              @risingfire it was only a matter of time before he’d make a Garrett banner. I hate his boomer hat tip emoji as well 🤮

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                                A Former User @ilovethesea
                                last edited by A Former User Feb 28, 2024, 8:32 PM Feb 28, 2024, 7:38 PM

                                @ilovethesea

                                Yes, I deleted my post this morning after reading the article you posted and realized I had posted something that was way down in the comments section but not the article, and wanted to recompose my thoughts. I've just seen more of this over on RPF though. Apparently the claim is that Vitamin A and copper make you an 'antenna' for EMF (and glyphosate damage, and vaccine injury and [fill in the inconvenient research topic]. I think it is a way to obfuscate and confuse and cast doubt on research that Ray Peat talked about early on that is now gaining a wider acceptance. They've studied our posts on RPF for years, IMO, and know the language and how to throw in a thing or two about Bill Gates, controlled opposition or a global agenda to make it sound like they're right in there with us, but talk as though they're uncovering the real truth that Ray Peat and the rest of us failed to see and now we're so vitamin A and copper-toxic that we're downright paranoid and really should be minding our own business.

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                                  Kvothe @chosroes
                                  last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 7:43 PM

                                  @chosroes The "per say" is a nice one. His lies are as well crafted as those of 6 year old.

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                                    Peatly @chosroes
                                    last edited by Peatly Feb 28, 2024, 8:10 PM Feb 28, 2024, 8:10 PM

                                    @chosroes Well spotted

                                    A successful depopulation agenda requires high excess death rates, lower birth rates and for the majority to vilify those that question it.

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                                      A Former User @A Former User
                                      last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 8:18 PM

                                      @C-Mex

                                      Here is the comment from 2019. I expect to see more along these lines as Vitamin A gets demonized and becomes the scapegoat. If it weren't for that pesky Vitamin A, nobody would ever get Seasonal Affective Disorder when working long hours indoors, or when they engineer a way to block the sun.

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                                        A Former User
                                        last edited by Feb 28, 2024, 8:43 PM

                                        Posted by a user under Charlie's announcement of RP's 'blessing'/ Although obviously I can't vouch for its veracity. It does have the common theme with the e-mail to Danny that RP was concerned about some personal comments made about him and about Progest-e. It will be interesting to see if Charlie produces the e-mail from Ray he claims to have.

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                                          Peatly @A Former User
                                          last edited by Peatly Feb 28, 2024, 8:58 PM Feb 28, 2024, 8:54 PM

                                          @C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:

                                          Posted by a user under Charlie's announcement of RP's 'blessing'/ Although obviously I can't vouch for its veracity. It does have the common theme with the e-mail to Danny that RP was concerned about some personal comments made about him and about Progest-e. It will be interesting to see if Charlie produces the e-mail from Ray he claims to have.

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                                          Have you see this thread?

                                          https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/1204/helpful-moderation-according-to-ray-peat?_=1709152867640&lang=en-US

                                          A successful depopulation agenda requires high excess death rates, lower birth rates and for the majority to vilify those that question it.

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