PSA TO ALL PPL/DO (PurplePandaLabs/DragonOrdnance) SHOPPERS

brightside · Mar 3, 2024, 3:19 AM

Don't trust them. They have shady practices and a bad reputation.

I recently tested my T order and turns out it's actually T Propionate.. Things that alerted me was the fishy smell, the different dry texture compared to previous batches, and a slightly different, fatty feel. It also dissolved up to 250mg/ml in DMSO.

I tested it with a temperature test, and indeed, it melted at 120C, not 155C that Test base is supposed to melt at.

A while back I saw on the RPF some person claiming that they got their PPL DHT to dissolve up to 140mg/ml.. Lol. Anyone who's used DHT base before knows that it dissolves up to 50mg/ml max. They also said that their DHT had a vinegary smell.. Well, that would be the acetate ester. Also, who knows if that would be actual DHT at that point?

DO/PPL have also been banned from the SST (Steroid Source Talk), a fairly trustworthy forum for gear users/suppliers. On there you can find tons of people complaining about non-delivered orders, wrong items sent, and bad customer service.

If you buy from them, you might get what you want, but it's not a sure thing like with other vendors. Unlike other vendors, they also couldn't really careless about their image and reputation, but people keep buying from them for some reason.

Anyways, be safe.

tea · Mar 3, 2024, 5:16 AM

@brightside does the acetate ester convert to estrogen at all, or you are just getting a less potent version of DHT?

Thank you.

thyroidchor27 · Mar 3, 2024, 5:24 AM

good website design halo. Meanwhile india mart always gave legit stuff but looks it was made by scammers

brightside · Mar 3, 2024, 5:46 AM

@tea said in PSA TO ALL PPL/DO (PurplePandaLabs/DragonOrdnance) SHOPPERS:

@brightside does the acetate ester convert to estrogen at all, or you are just getting a less potent version of DHT?

Thank you.

It would be a less potent version of DHT. The acetate would be cleaved off in the skin and probably used for energy?

brightside · Mar 3, 2024, 5:47 AM

@thyroidchor27 said in PSA TO ALL PPL/DO (PurplePandaLabs/DragonOrdnance) SHOPPERS:

good website design halo. Meanwhile india mart always gave legit stuff but looks it was made by scammers

What? PPL is the most sketchy website I’ve seen lmao

thyroidchor27 · Mar 3, 2024, 5:49 AM

@brightside It has that comfy christmasy feel. Go to india mart and check for comparison lol or even haiduts website

tea · Mar 3, 2024, 6:09 AM

@thyroidchor27 Idealabs not updating the product photos irks me so bad. Let's see what happens with the product info being linked to what used to be rpf.

brightside · Mar 3, 2024, 6:11 AM

@thyroidchor27 said in PSA TO ALL PPL/DO (PurplePandaLabs/DragonOrdnance) SHOPPERS:

@brightside It has that comfy christmasy feel. Go to india mart and check for comparison lol or even haiduts website

Ohh, they changed it up. It used to look worse. Here's an archive That looks more like a website made by a druggie that your mom warned you about when you were 10.

True about haidut's site lol. It feels like someone spent 3 minutes putting it together.

IndiaMart looks like alibiba or something of that sort, not too bad, but definitely not trustworthy looking.

brightside · Mar 3, 2024, 6:12 AM

@tea said in PSA TO ALL PPL/DO (PurplePandaLabs/DragonOrdnance) SHOPPERS:

@thyroidchor27 Idealabs not updating the product photos irks me so bad. Let's see what happens with the product info being linked to what used to be rpf.

For real. I wanted to email them so they would send me empty bottles to take pictures with so that I would have nicer pictures to look at lmao

Kilgore · Mar 3, 2024, 9:25 AM

@brightside Wow. Thanks for this. Before I made the mistake of ordering. Sooooo where can I get DHT from?

Kilgore · Mar 3, 2024, 9:27 AM

@brightside said in PSA TO ALL PPL/DO (PurplePandaLabs/DragonOrdnance) SHOPPERS:

True about haidut's site lol. It feels like someone spent 3 minutes putting it together.

He would get more business with a better website and if his links were all directed to the correct pages lol.

milkgains_bro · Mar 3, 2024, 9:52 AM

@brightside I had very good experience with Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co. You can check their thread on ThinkSteroids with latest review etc. They had good amount of raws in ther portfolio.

pannacottas · Mar 3, 2024, 8:06 PM

@milkgains_bro Im actually thinking from ordering from QSC, yeah for the most part they seem trustworthy based on the mesorx thread. Their prices are good too. They also have most of their stuff tested at Janoshik but if i buy from them ill have it tested again probably.
Are you in the EU by any chance? I wouldnt want 100$+ of dht to get seized lol

Mulloch94 · Mar 3, 2024, 8:21 PM

I've never had a problem with PPL's raws. But I've only ever ordered T and DHT from them, so it's hard to say how legit they are when you only get the easy stuff. Something like Oxandrolone, which is very hard to get authentic, would be interesting to see in a test from them.

As a disclaimer I would like to state I haven't ordered from them in a long time. So the company may have went downhill since then. I'll say this, if you fuck up raw T suspension I'm not sure you can be trusted with anything else.

QSC seems to be a good stop for raws. I get most of my "pharma" from DashPCT though, very reliable for non-steroid stuff imo. They don't sell raws, I think proviron is all they got.

Mulloch94 · Mar 3, 2024, 8:23 PM

alphagels has top notch DHT, but it's in DMSO (which I don't like anymore).

Kilgore · Apr 29, 2024, 5:17 AM

@brightside said in PSA TO ALL PPL/DO (PurplePandaLabs/DragonOrdnance) SHOPPERS:

Anyone who's used DHT base before knows that it dissolves up to 50mg/ml max.

@Mulloch94 said in PSA TO ALL PPL/DO (PurplePandaLabs/DragonOrdnance) SHOPPERS:

alphagels has top notch DHT

Interesting cause Alphagels claims:
"We have transdermal DHT gel available in two strengths:
10% DHT (100mg/ml)
20% DHT (200mg/ml)"

Or are there different ways DHT can be dissolved?
Also will taking DHT stop natural testosterone production? Can you point me to the best info I can read up on this?

Crypt Keeper · Apr 29, 2024, 5:47 PM

@brightside said in PSA TO ALL PPL/DO (PurplePandaLabs/DragonOrdnance) SHOPPERS:

I recently tested my T order and turns out it's actually T Propionate..

Did they have the right number on the package? I'm wondering if they just got the order wrong / mixed up, or if they actually tried to pass off one substance for the other.

brightside · Apr 29, 2024, 11:54 PM

@milkgains_bro said in PSA TO ALL PPL/DO (PurplePandaLabs/DragonOrdnance) SHOPPERS:

@brightside I had very good experience with Qingdao Sigma Chemical Co. You can check their thread on ThinkSteroids with latest review etc. They had good amount of raws in ther portfolio.

Sweet, thanks for the comment. I'll def use them when I buy more raws

brightside · Apr 29, 2024, 11:55 PM

@Mulloch94 How would you compare DashPCT vs places like farmacias del nino and alldaychemist?

brightside · Apr 30, 2024, 12:01 AM

@Kilgore said in PSA TO ALL PPL/DO (PurplePandaLabs/DragonOrdnance) SHOPPERS:

@brightside said in PSA TO ALL PPL/DO (PurplePandaLabs/DragonOrdnance) SHOPPERS:

Anyone who's used DHT base before knows that it dissolves up to 50mg/ml max.

@Mulloch94 said in PSA TO ALL PPL/DO (PurplePandaLabs/DragonOrdnance) SHOPPERS:

alphagels has top notch DHT

Interesting cause Alphagels claims:
"We have transdermal DHT gel available in two strengths:
10% DHT (100mg/ml)
20% DHT (200mg/ml)"

Or are there different ways DHT can be dissolved?
Also will taking DHT stop natural testosterone production? Can you point me to the best info I can read up on this?

Yeah, that's BS.

Either that, or they are using esterified DHT which has a much better solubility.