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      Mulloch94 @Marquis777
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      @Marquis777 It's specific to the individual. Anyone with primary hypogonadism wouldn't be able to use that. He was also taking a lot of stuff. Vitamin E, B6, zinc, BCAA's, a mix of different proteins. You'd have to be strict about that too, doing it religiously everyday. Most people would probably just rather pen test and be done with it.

      On a side note, the thread (if it still exists) where people were experimenting with putting pansterone on their balls had a lot of people report increases in T. I think IIRC someone even posted blood work of before/after.

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        Kilgore @Mulloch94
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        @Mulloch94 said in Testosterone:

        primary hypogonadism

        Can you ellaborate on this? Why did it work for him but not for someome wth normal conditions?

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          Mulloch94 @Kilgore
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          @Kilgore What I mean by "primary" is the low testosterone is not from insufficient stimulation of the leydig cells. When the issues are related to some sort of imbalance in the HPTA then natural solutions can probably fix it. When the leydig cells are simply not responsive to high GnRH and LH outputs, then trt will likely be your only solution...unless theoretically you could lower oxidative stress and inflammation to the point the leydig cells become responsive again. But that certainly won't work for everyone, or even most.

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            Mulloch94 @Kilgore
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            @Kilgore Haidut's leydig cells are likely responding very well, so lowering prolactin and increasing dopamine paves the way for outstanding GnRH firing, which raised his testosterone dramatically.

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              Marquis777 @Insr
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              @insufferable I'm probably gonna try this very soon.

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                Kvirion @ATP
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                @ATP There is a comprehensive article about it https://testonation.com/2018/10/23/46-ways-to-increase-dht/ (it describes methods to increase both testosterone and dihydrotestosterone)

                A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                And drinking largely sobers us again.
                ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                  Kilgore @Mulloch94
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                  @Mulloch94 Thanks. I will try this one day. Will report back on experience.

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                    HyperTorless @Insr
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                    @insufferable Very interesting article.
                    It should be noted that the !Kung San are the only hunter-gatherers who had prediabetic range of glucose tolerance. It is most likely due to their unreasonable consumption of the mongongo nuts (sometimes 80% of their diet), which contains 40% linoleic acid, especially as the glucose tolerance tests were conducted during the season where the mongongo fruits come ripe for consumption.
                    Surely the PUFA didn't help to ramp up testosterone.

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                      Insr @HyperTorless
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                      @HyperTorless said in Testosterone:

                      @insufferable Very interesting article.
                      It should be noted that the !Kung San are the only hunter-gatherers who had prediabetic range of glucose tolerance. It is most likely due to their unreasonable consumption of the mongongo nuts (sometimes 80% of their diet), which contains 40% linoleic acid, especially as the glucose tolerance test were conducted during the season where the mongongo fruits come ripe for consumption.
                      Surely the PUFA didn't help to ramp up testosterone.

                      Great info, thank you! I approved your comment on the site.

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                        bowser
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                        Prioritize metabolism
                        Eat sufficient calories with high nutrient dense foods
                        Do high T behavior (lift weights, run businesses, fuck chicks)

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                          Uncover @xyit
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                          @xyit Absolutely delightful ☕

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                            the_black_jew @ATP
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                            @ATP do you use BCAA?

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