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    Glucose loading cures everything?

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      Peatful
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      Just visited the RPF

      So bizarre

      The questions in this thread have again mostly been discussed by Ray
      If not directly
      Meaning not told exactly “how to do it”
      This is where we are to perceive think act

      From my personal experience
      And I healed from extremely poor health to now the greatest health I’ve ever had
      Sugar was absolutely foundational
      A foundation is what we build upon

      But
      Im here to say
      As I said over there

      Stress hormones desensitize the insulin receptor
      From birth to now, most of us have had some sort of stress that is shaped our experience of our health
      With chronic stress comes many things all of which desensitizes the insulin receptor

      When you reintroduce sugar your body is essentially already in an insulin resistant state
      The stress hormones flooding your system overtime have desensitized the insulin receptor so insulin cannot drive glucose into the cell anymore….

      I point this out because the more I used this wonderful “nutrient”
      The more I was able to handle it and really reap the benefits of using it not only in relatively large quantities- my ability to utilize it as a therapeutic tool only got better and better
      But the beginning was rough
      Really rough
      Due to my stressed metabolic state

      Anyway
      Just stunned that Ray isn’t understood nor acknowledged on his own forum
      I grieve that shit

      Please listen to him here
      He addresses a lot iirc

      A prophet
      A genius
      And a friend

      Youtube Video

      One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

      -DB

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        bot-mod @Peatful
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        I was in awe having a scroll of it this morning. Their power struggles and appeals to spertise occasionally gets a bit shakespearian. Someone could probably write an entertaining novel about RPF.

        Aside from that Ms Peatful. I know the feelings. Beside and probably not distinct from the science.

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          bot-mod @yerrag
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          All a bit strange hey Mr Yerrag. I find myself affirm to your observation.

          Meanwhile, I get the feeling there's something in this. I'll have to read around quite a lot, enjoy surrounding conversation and sleep well I guess. All I can do right now is speculate. That the fructose is unwelcome to him for myocardial reasons and the glucose still benefits for structural and therefore metabolic reasons. Probably not without personal consequence. But at least it begs some questions.

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            S.Holmes @Peatful
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            @Peatful Could you expound on "rough"? I had a very strange burning pain from my neck to the bottom of my ribs yesterday (right side). I put an aspirin under my tongue and took a homeopathic remedy to treat stroke, just in case. It lasted about 15 minutes and then I was fine.

            If not for Dr.Peat I wouldn't have given the sucrose protocol a second look. I think he saved my life, but I still have lingering issues, and weight gain which is difficult because I was very thin my entire life. So I'm willing to try anything to feel better. I've been on Nathan Hatch's protocol for a few months, and it was helpful but still didn't quite get me "there." (I still use some of the things he suggests.)

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              S.Holmes @yerrag
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              @yerrag Right, I was referring to fuel being obtained from protein or fat. Simple sugars are absorbed in the stomach, not the intestines. That's what I meant by bypassing the digestive process.

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                evan.hinkle @Insomniac
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                @Insomniac but here’s the kicker, my blood glucose levels are lower. Where I was spiking to 150 after a meal I’m now spiking to 125. Every time I check my blood glucose it’s 20-30 points lower than my typical readings without dextrose.

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                  Peatful @S.Holmes
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                  @S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                  @Peatful Could you expound on "rough"? I had a very strange burning pain from my neck to the bottom of my ribs yesterday (right side). I put an aspirin under my tongue and took a homeopathic remedy to treat stroke, just in case. It lasted about 15 minutes and then I was fine.

                  If not for Dr.Peat I wouldn't have given the sucrose protocol a second look. I think he saved my life, but I still have lingering issues, and weight gain which is difficult because I was very thin my entire life. So I'm willing to try anything to feel better. I've been on Nathan Hatch's protocol for a few months, and it was helpful but still didn't quite get me "there." (I still use some of the things he suggests.)

                  Yes
                  I had odd symptoms
                  Troubling ones
                  But transient

                  I had significant weight gain
                  But
                  That was not about the sugar or the foods
                  The weight gain reflected the damage already done in my body

                  It was so much fluid
                  And
                  As said above
                  With any history of restriction or stress
                  You will start with your cells unable to get the sugar in
                  But it gets better
                  Your body has to relearn

                  Maybe this will help give you an idea?

                  Im around today
                  Jyst need to run now

                  Thx

                  https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/reintroducing-peaty-eating-after-very-low-carb-low-calorie.50945/

                  One act of obedience is better than one hundred sermons.

                  -DB

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                    S.Holmes @yerrag
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                    @yerrag Well, the doctor admits that some of the protocol is based on theory...such as how quickly and preferentially the glucose appears to make it's way to the brain, within a couple of minutes! I believe that was the theory he said he would need spinal tap volunteers for. Who would sign up for that??? Theories, in my opinion, should be put to the test. He has been testing it out for a while now, with amazing successes. I'm just doing my part.

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                        S.Holmes @evan.hinkle
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                        @evan-hinkle said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                        @Insomniac but here’s the kicker, my blood glucose levels are lower. Where I was spiking to 150 after a meal I’m now spiking to 125. Every time I check my blood glucose it’s 20-30 points lower than my typical readings without dextrose.

                        THIS!!!

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                          bot-mod @evan.hinkle
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                          I'd ask for your urinary volumes throughout the day but I'm not going to push my luck. Or be that weird.

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                            S.Holmes @Peatful
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                            @Peatful Yes, very helpful, thank you.

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                              Insomniac @evan.hinkle
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                                evan.hinkle @Insomniac
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                                @Insomniac the protocol is to increase dextrose until symptoms abate and then stay there for a period of a few months. I’m not against trying a one time dose of that nature, but I’m working on a giant treehouse today so I won’t be able to try til later in the evening.

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                                  evan.hinkle @bot-mod
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                                  @ThinPicking I haven’t tracked, but I’ll say this, I don’t urinate very frequently because I don’t drink a ton of fluids. Maybe three times a day, not particularly dark, nor clear. What’s the theory you’re thinking here?

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                                      bot-mod @evan.hinkle
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                                      The volume, specific gravity and/or TDS would tell you a lot. But at the same time, your sensation of your own wellbeing is paramount here. If you're feeling good, let that be.

                                      I like these kinds of dollar metrics for the buck accessibility. Refractometer, TDS meters, stethoscopes, sensitive scales, bioimpedance meters, HRV, BP, this kind of thing. No million buck labs filled with nerdoids.

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                                        S.Holmes @evan.hinkle
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                                        @evan-hinkle Can you share a photo here when it's finished?? Lol

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                                          S.Holmes @S.Holmes
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                                          @S-Holmes said in Glucose loading cures everything?:

                                          @evan-hinkle Can you share a photo here when it's finished?? Lol

                                          ...of the treehouse, I mean. Lol

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                                            evan.hinkle @S.Holmes
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                                            @S-Holmes hahahahaha, it actually took me a minute to realize that’s what you meant…

                                            I just tried, but I don’t know how to post a picture. I clicked on the icon for the picture, but all I got was some pre-fab html.

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