How to gain 5kg/11lbs in one month in a peaty way as an ectomorph?
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@RawGoatMilk88 that’ll only work when you’re hypothyroid.
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High carb, high protein, moderate fat. And weight lifting.
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@Peater0921 said in How to gain 5kg/11lbs in one month in a peaty way as an ectomorph?:
Looking for a foolproof and peaty diet to gain a minimum of 5kg/11lbs in one month as an ectomorph. No problem if it's all fat, I need to greatly increase my bf % anyways. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
In roughly 3 months, and without any strength training due to my spine collapsing and having to relearn how to walk, I went from 30 kg (67 lb) and unable to gain weight to 43 kg (95 lb) of predominantly muscle with an ancestral diet of mostly Peaty foods. The majority of my calories came from full-fat dairy (4 L of raw cow’s milk and/or goat yogurt and upwards of half a kilo of raw cheese) and the rest was mainly eggs, homemade bone broth, meat (scallops, crab and ground beef), fruit (red peppers, tomatoes, avocados and coconuts), tender baby greens and raw honey.
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No it will work for literally anyone lol. You can easily add thousands of calories to your day that way.
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@RawGoatMilk88 It will add calories, yes.
Maybe OP needs to clarify if he's trying to describe pathologically underweight, or just wants to put on muscle.
Ray was under-weight no matter how much he was consuming -- it took thyroid supplementation to lower the adrenaline in the liver to slow down uncoupling and energy wasting.
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@yeyo12 @RawGoatMilk88 the thing is, i've been drinking raw milk regularly for a while now, it's keeping me as lean as always, but i remember Peat saying that whole milk will fatten up in general, I'm starting to think I'm diabetic or something but my blood tests always check out fine...
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@LetTheRedeemed This is definitely true, focusing my meals on things I actually enjoy and that are also calorically & nutrient-dense has been a big help
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@LetTheRedeemed I heard about that too, so I started supplementing thyroid, but it didn't do anything either. But to be fair, it wasn't accurately dosed thyroid but NDT, so who knows if it would have been different
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@Peater0921 said in How to gain 5kg/11lbs in one month in a peaty way as an ectomorph?:
@LetTheRedeemed This is definitely true, focusing my meals on things I actually enjoy and that are also calorically & nutrient-dense has been a big help
It’s wild, I can consume a gelatin rich tasty meal around both lunch time and dinner, but if I don’t have time to cook and just take gelatin in OJ, it doesn’t give me the same sleep benefits.
Ray talked about the importance of making tasty food for the improved digestive enzymes — and its impact on health.Yea, I tried NDT for a while, and its problems are real (I even tried a liquid thyroid from a vendor we all know and love lol — I still use him for other things but no longer the thyroid).
I finally did a consultation with Danny Roddy and using cynoplus/cynomel has made a real difference after a year.
Now, I think healthy people should FREELY include NDT, like was done in traditional diets the world over.
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I'm also ectomorph, 24M, and this summer I almost replaced my water consumption by milk and drinking 0,5/1L of raw goat milk (I mix it with strawberry syrup it is delicious) daily, I've gained 2kg easily just adding that. I'm also doing weight lifting 2-3 times a week. I can also advise you to eat 1 spoon of raw honey at the end of each meal to spike your insulin and activate your "weight stock".
Btw, I think Ray Peat was also in the same situation but when he began to take thyroid he could gain weight or not losing weight while eating less. I thought I was in the same situation but I checked my temperature waking up with a mercure thermometer this whole summer and was always at 97,7 degrees Fahrenheit
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@edouard Thank you for sharing! I will definitely integrate honey or some form of sugars at the end of meals to spike insulin and promote fat storage (not sure how I didn't think about that before lol).
Yes, about Ray's situation, I think it had to do something with holding magnesium in cells and how thyroid is allowing that and otherwise without sufficient thyroid the body becomes inefficient at holding magnesium and requires abnormally high calories just to maintain.
Maybe all I really need is some cynoplus/cynomel...
