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    LetTheRedeemed @yerrag
    last edited by Sep 17, 2024, 1:14 AM

    @yerrag so basically it’s the improved metabolism and vit A consumption, not looking long distances. the other poster assumed falsely about your eyesight improvement.

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      yerrag @LetTheRedeemed
      last edited by Sep 17, 2024, 2:47 AM

      @LetTheRedeemed I think she got it right but she had the wrong idea thinking eye exercises are more important than the nutrition aspect.

      I think both matters. I was doing Chinese eye exercises that I picked up from a Chinese magazine since high school. While it didn't get rid of my glasses, it still kept my nearsightedness from getting worse all these years. My grade of 75 left and 175 right managed to stay the same all these years. I know many whose eyesight kept deteriorating to 400+ grade.

      Of course, I can't blame her as she still believes in Vitamin A being toxic, but that's not something I would waste time debating about.

      Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
      engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
      wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
      the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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        LetTheRedeemed @yerrag
        last edited by Sep 17, 2024, 12:02 PM

        @yerrag interesting, thanks for sharing

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          Janelle525
          last edited by Sep 18, 2024, 4:51 PM

          Not sure why people are laughing at my comment. It is well established in the scientific literature that staring at screens and early reading for kids causes nearsightedness. Eating liver is not necessary for vision acuity. If it was we'd have a cure ! (far from it, ate plenty of liver in my life and still needed glasses)

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            Peatful @Janelle525
            last edited by Sep 18, 2024, 5:15 PM

            @Janelle525

            I laughed that someone-
            presumably from the old RPF- felt the need to correct a rather benign comment-
            in support for the VA is toxic teaching
            and that one needs to “be careful”

            I hope that trend doesn’t root over here

            Ray’s ideas supported that forum for over a decade
            The toxic VA trend does not look sustainable

            The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

            SD

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              LetTheRedeemed @Janelle525
              last edited by LetTheRedeemed Sep 19, 2024, 12:34 AM Sep 19, 2024, 12:34 AM

              @Janelle525 I don't think you'll find anyone here who disagrees with the scientific understanding of screen time / indoor activity (including reading books in poorly lit conditions) greatly contributing to eyesight problems in people of all ages, but the science of Vitamin A necessity in eyesight, is also sound.

              In my eyes, and of most people here, the answer is clearly both!

              You made a bold blind assertion that yerrag changed his lifestyle to see the eye improvement when he himself asserted that the change that predicated the improvement was the introduction of liver as a vitamin A rich food -- that is funny enough to laugh at lol; the alternative is being anonasses!

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                serotoninskeptic @GreekDemiGod
                last edited by Sep 26, 2024, 1:09 PM

                @GreekDemiGod My libido tanked on a raw vegan diet and after transitioning out of a plant-based diet I still had trouble getting my libido up and running again. I kid you not the day i first tried liver my libido was back almost instantly and it felt incredible. Now I have a consistently healthy libido even without consuming liver regularly but I thought that was an interesting story.

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                  yerrag @serotoninskeptic
                  last edited by Sep 27, 2024, 1:45 AM

                  @Sugarnotsnow

                  I don't know if this were true but my dad told me of a story about tigers and being barren in captivity. Until one day when they were fed liver. Soon thereafter the tigress got pregnant and delivered. I'm told the first thing predators like lions and tiger would est from a fresh kill is the liver

                  They know something most Ivy League woke professors don't as trained by hallowed medical schools.

                  Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                  engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                  wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                  the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                    GreekDemiGod @yerrag
                    last edited by GreekDemiGod Sep 27, 2024, 9:50 AM Sep 27, 2024, 9:50 AM

                    @yerrag If they crave it naturally, sure.

                    **Yes, tigers (and other carnivores) can suffer from vitamin A toxicity (also known as hypervitaminosis A). This condition occurs when there is an excessive intake of vitamin A, which is typically stored in the liver.

                    In the wild, tigers naturally get their vitamin A from their prey, particularly from eating the liver, which is rich in the nutrient. However, if tigers are overfed liver or receive excessive vitamin A supplementation in captivity, they can develop toxicity.

                    Symptoms of vitamin A toxicity in tigers may include:

                    • Joint pain or stiffness, leading to difficulty in movement
                    • Bone abnormalities (like bone overgrowth)
                    • Liver damage
                    • Lethargy or weakness
                    • Loss of appetite

                    In captivity, it's important to carefully balance their diet to avoid both deficiencies and excesses of vitamins and minerals.**

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                      serotoninskeptic @yerrag
                      last edited by Sep 27, 2024, 10:34 AM

                      @yerrag Haha thats a funny dtory I hope its true

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