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    Experiences with RAW MEAT.

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    • KilgoreK
      Kilgore
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      Please share your experiences with raw meat.

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        BroJonas @Kilgore
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        @Kilgore I ate it as a bulk of my diet for 3 and half years and it wasn’t magic. Had diarrhea often. Really no reason for me to have stuck with it that long besides Aajonus’s spell and charm lol. Live and learn

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        • yerragY
          yerrag @Kilgore
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          @Kilgore

          Thanks for the reminder. I've eaten carpaccio both in an Italian restaurant and at home. It was easy to make and there was no need to eat it at a restaurant. Especially when I could keep a piece of sirloin or beef nape (the meat by the neck with is marbled) cheap, have it frozen for 2 weeks to make it more safe to be eaten raw, then slice the meat across the grain thinly like Korean style using a manual slicer (Korean style) which makes short work of slicing fully frozen meat.

          Preparation is almost non-existent as after slicing the meat you you lay the strips in a plate and drizzle with lemon juice and put capers to add some sourness and flavor and a bit of bumpiness into the adventure. Depending on your personal preference, you can add some salt and pepper or kick it up a notch with cayenne pepper.

          If I'm having it with slices of french bread or baguette, then I can use the olive oil as a dip with the bread instead. Or I might open up a small can of liver spread, a poor man's paté, and spread it over the slice of bread and enjoy the carpaccio to my liking.

          This meat slicer is simply indispensable. I was glad I could buy this for a song, as previously in looking for a meat slicer, it was the underpowered and unreliable electric meat slicers that have bad reviews due to their unreliable operation and short life, not mentioning they hog valuable counter space, or the pricey industrial and overkill and pricey meat slicer, both of them very unforgiving of careless mistakes involving our delicate fingers:

          https://s.lazada.com.ph/s.LZCzn

          Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
          engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
          wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
          the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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          • KilgoreK
            Kilgore @yerrag
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            @yerrag Thanks for sharing. I will try carpaccio.

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            • Milk DestroyerM
              Milk Destroyer
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              Felt quite sedated once after eating raw lamb but possibly hundreds of other factors involved.

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              • yerragY
                yerrag @Kilgore
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                @Kilgore Two benefits of eating raw meat that I value more are the vitamin C that we get more of over cooked meat, ans the presence of enzymes that make digesting the raw meat easier. It also conserves the enzymes that our pancreas don't have to make. If it's true we have a limited store of enzymes in our lifetime, eating raw meat helps conserve our body's enzymes. I know taking care of my dad, he developed skin allergies in his old age..I suspected he lacked endogenous production of proteolytic enzymes, and I was right. His allergies disappeared when he began taking enzymes. At his age, his skin had to do more to excrete waste, and undigested protein being excreted were causing allergies.

                Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                • GardnerG
                  Gardner @yerrag
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                  I think raw meat is poorly digested but may be beneficial as prebiotic ( foster growth or activity of beneficial microorganisms ). Being poorly digested means less iron is absorbed , and also mimicking fasting /low calorie.

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                  • yerragY
                    yerrag @Gardner
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                    @Gardner Have you eaten raw meat from a good source? Since it comes with enzymes, how can it not be digested more poorly than cooked meat, which has no enzymes anymore?

                    Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                    engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                    wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                    the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                    • GardnerG
                      Gardner @yerrag
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                      @yerrag
                      I think it is not digested as completely as cooked meat unless one has strong stomach acid. If I'm not mistaken Aajonus recommended to accompany raw meat with raw honey to supply digestive enzymes. Well, raw meat provides with more glutathione but there are other sources of it.
                      I would consider it as occasional pre/pro-biotic food. It might cause flu symptoms when cold and not recommended when defrozen.

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                      • yerragY
                        yerrag @Gardner
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                        @Gardner I don't know that honey contains digestive enzymes. The digestive enzymes come with the raw meat. The enzyme is deactivated with high temperature when meat is cooked. I can't quote the author, as it was from a book I read long ago. I've eaten raw meat, haven't felt great nor sick though eating it but I would eat it every opportunity I have, which is not often but probably should.

                        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                        • DavidPSD
                          DavidPS
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                          From Dr. Peat:

                          “…So the reason for cooking meat or oysters or fish or whatever is to make sure that you've killed the parasites and microorganisms. There's no nutritional benefit at all from cooking them.

                          https://www.bioenergetic.life/clips/36a61?t=3773&c=80

                          ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
                          ☂️

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