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    what is the cure to hairloss / male pattern baldness?

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    • mentunM
      mentun @tubert
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      @tubert I just felt sedated most of the time, which I think is a good thing because it means that the stress hormones that I was running on were being suppressed by the cypro. I continued to take a lot of cypro after the three days, even up to 32 mg. I ran out of cypro after like a week. I just ordered more.

      I think the cypro just works as a vacuum, and you need to supplement other things like thyroid or progesterone to take the place of the stress hormones that you've been running on. Also eating liver and oysters once a week, and upping your calcium to lower parathyroid hormone.

      Benefits are better digestion. Con is sometimes I would get a mild migraine, but really there is none.

      For the hair, I been on thyroid for about 2 months now, gradually increasing my dose to 3 grains. My hair is indeed coming back, but slowly. I might up it to 4 grains next week. I dont plan on taking thyroid forever tho, tapering off of it. I take the synthetic thyroid ray peat recommends from mexico.

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        tubert @mentun
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        @mentun is that t3 or t4 you are using? or a combo (t3/t4)?

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          Insr
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          Consider epitestosterone, the body's endogenous anti-androgen. Produced alongside testosterone (99% of it is not a test derivative), it is mildly neuroprotective and strongly anti-estrogen.

          Unfortunately it is also one of the most understudied hormones in existence.

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            Insr @Insr
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            @insufferable said in whats the cure to hair loss?:

            Consider epitestosterone, the body's endogenous anti-androgen. Produced alongside testosterone (99% of it is not a test derivative), it is mildly neuroprotective and strongly anti-estrogen.

            Unfortunately it is also one of the most understudied hormones in existence.

            Maybe this can explain how follicle DHT can be the cause of balding and yet balding is worse in low testosterone men (premature balding at least), and many men who clearly have high testosterone don't go bald.

            The body makes epiT alongside T so a naturally high test man would also be naturally high in epiT, thus having plenty of ability to block androgens by means of the body's natural and healthy process of doing so, in the places where the body doesn't want androgens to be high. While keeping androgens high in places where they should be high.

            The low test man is also going to be low in epiT, I would think.

            I think it's big news that the body even has this endogenous capacity - producing a natural and healthy anti-androgen, and not as a test derivative either. Apparently this is part of your body's system. I think there are a lot of implications of that.

            I made an epitestosterone thread earlier:
            https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/575/epitestosterone-premature-balding-and-male-pcos

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            • mentunM
              mentun @tubert
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              @tubert I currently take one and a half tablets of cynoplus (t3/t4) after a meal which equals to 3.3 grains, and I take small bites of a cynomel (t3) tablet (4-9 mcg) after a meal or if my hands or feet are not warm.

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                tubert @mentun
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                @mentun Thanks a lot. I have some t3 at home (which I never use), but I will try some iodine first to see what happens.

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                • voldtzeigV
                  voldtzeig
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                  If you're att stathams level it's over mate. Should've started caring years ago.

                  Getting it back is hard, keeping is easy.

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                  • bluearchivehateB
                    bluearchivehate
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                    Microneedling doesn't reverse calcification very well, you need to aggressively pinch the scalp and stretch it with the knuckles. I think this is because scalp tissue is comparatively far thicker than the tissues of the face microneedling is normally used for.

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                      wester130 @Chud
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                      @Chud

                      In my opinion - baldness is the PCOS male equivalent

                      https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7382675/

                      How do people treat PCOS?

                      With Inositol - which also treats insulin resistance

                      https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/original-research-theory-how-androgenetic-alopecia-is-a-manifestation-of-insulin-resistance-and-its-connections-with-cvd-pcos.138444/

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                        GreekDemiGod @wester130
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                        What could be the reason that causes one temple (left one) to recede faster than the other?

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                          wester130 @bluearchivehate
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                          @bluearchivehate do you think chemical peels would remove old scar tissue/fibrosis?

                          these people thought it would

                          https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t9447-scalp-peeling-with-20-glycolic-acid-great-results

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                            GreekDemiGod @wester130
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                            Everyone read this:
                            https://x.com/bowtiedum/status/1924581280777163111?s=46&t=a8gKZoLMKC0o1r60b5az-g

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                            • BearWithMeB
                              BearWithMe @GreekDemiGod
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                              "Fuck outta here with your "genetics"- name 5 bald historical figures before the invention of the lightbulb"

                              There are so many things wrong with this sentence I don't even know where to start

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                              • cs3000C
                                cs3000 @GreekDemiGod
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                                @GreekDemiGod i read some stuff on that before at the old forum mentioned by amazoniac & travis i think , happening through TGF-B in scalp

                                "world," as a source of new perceptions
                                more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                                "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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                                • cs3000C
                                  cs3000 @BearWithMe
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                                  @BearWithMe This guy comes to mind
                                  ivan the terribles scalp wasnt doing too good

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                                  something tells me he wasnt the least stressed person

                                  "world," as a source of new perceptions
                                  more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                                  "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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                                  • BearWithMeB
                                    BearWithMe @cs3000
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                                    Before the invention of lightbulb, many men died before they even had a chance to go bald. Despite this fact, we have so many examples of bald men of history it almost seems like more of them were bald than not bald.

                                    Even if there actually were no bald men before the invention of lightbulb, our lives are so radically different in so many ways that blaming it on lightbulb is just ridiculous.

                                    Especially when you realize that incandescent light bulb produce much more red and infrared light than blue light. Incandescent light bulb is actually hair growth promoting device

                                    spectrum.jpg

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                                      16characterstwas
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                                      Someone asked ray…

                                      Post in thread 'Ray Peat Email Advice Depository'
                                      https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/ray-peat-email-advice-depository.1035/post-602236

                                      “
                                      I asked Ray what he personally would have done had he developed rapid, early-onset male pattern baldness. I also asked if he thought it possible to restore hair back the juvenile state (dense NW1).

                                      Ray:

                                      My first step would be to thoroughly investigate TSH, temperature, vitamin D, and calcium. No, everything is always changing, reflecting your whole situation. Developing baldness is a warning sign of basic metabolic problems, tending toward general circulatory disease.
                                      “

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