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what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?

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    risingfire @wester130
    last edited by Jan 31, 2025, 8:15 PM

    @wester130 Preg, dht, thyroid, niacinamide, RU58841(never tried this). When I was really stressed out I saw an increase in nose and ear hair. DHT will likely increase more body hair though

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      wester130 @jamezb46
      last edited by Feb 2, 2025, 10:53 PM

      @jamezb46 @risingfire

      what do you think of this idea?

      https://www.reddit.com/r/DrWillPowers/comments/1gb3mfg/ways_to_reduce_adrenal_androgens_without/

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        Kvirion @wester130
        last edited by Feb 3, 2025, 10:24 PM

        @wester130 said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:

        how does a person reduce cortisol if things like dhea

        Try emodin (cascara)

        A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
        Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
        There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
        And drinking largely sobers us again.
        ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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          wester130 @Kvirion
          last edited by Feb 4, 2025, 12:19 AM

          @Kvirion said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:

          emodin

          this feels like a deep set problem in my body, like something is totally failing, like my adrenal gland

          but I am not sure

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            wester130 @Kvirion
            last edited by Feb 4, 2025, 12:28 AM

            @Kvirion would this work?

            https://gorillamind.com/products/cortisol-blocker

            https://www.morphogennutrition.com/products/emodin

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              jamezb46 @wester130
              last edited by Feb 4, 2025, 2:51 AM

              @wester130 maybe you should try ammonia detox with calcium alpha keto glutarate and Ornithine

              In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                Kvirion @wester130
                last edited by Kvirion Feb 4, 2025, 4:17 PM Feb 4, 2025, 4:13 PM

                @wester130 said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:

                this feels like a deep set problem in my body, like something is totally failing, like my adrenal gland

                Yep, good point. Treat emodin as a temporary fix/mitigation, when you will continue to work on your general health and well-being...

                These two products you suggested had too much shitty preservatives inside, etc.

                I use this one below in tiny doses - I open the capsule and use only about 1/10 or 1/5 at once. You will need to experiment with your optimal dosage. Too much may make you run to the toilet ๐Ÿ˜‰
                (Cascara is a natural source of emodin)

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                You can also try this one if available https://idealabs.ecwid.com/Lapodin-p70230379

                A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                And drinking largely sobers us again.
                ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                  risingfire @wester130
                  last edited by Feb 5, 2025, 6:54 PM

                  @wester130 I can't believe I forgot about cypro. Give it a shot. I have no experience with Phosphatidylserine. I'd look deeper into.

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                    wester130 @risingfire
                    last edited by Feb 9, 2025, 9:14 PM

                    @risingfire do you think low dose cabergoline could work?

                    it seems to reduce prolactin and cortisol

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                      risingfire @wester130
                      last edited by Feb 10, 2025, 5:35 PM

                      @wester130 I'm sure it would lower prolactin but I'm not sure about cortisol. What is your prolactin at?

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                        wester130 @risingfire
                        last edited by Mar 4, 2025, 3:59 PM

                        @risingfire

                        i'm looking into a new idea of male PCOS

                        so taking things like spearmint, licorice and Vitex to solve it

                        thoughts?

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                          16charactersitis @wester130
                          last edited by Mar 5, 2025, 2:13 AM

                          @wester130 stay away from licorice, itโ€™s supposed to be highly estrogenic besides messing with your cortisol. I think mint is fine if it suits you, and have heard good things about vitex, so i guess worth a try.

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                            Hando-Jin @risingfire
                            last edited by Mar 5, 2025, 7:28 AM

                            @risingfire said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:

                            @wester130 cortisol

                            pregnenolone

                            idea labs cortiNon

                            cyproheptadine

                            sugar

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                              wester130 @Hando-Jin
                              last edited by wester130 Mar 5, 2025, 12:43 PM Mar 5, 2025, 12:43 PM

                              @Hando-Jin those would not work for hyperandrogenism

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                                Hando-Jin @wester130
                                last edited by Mar 5, 2025, 1:26 PM

                                @wester130 I don't know. You asked for things that lower cortisol, and all of those things do. You won't know without experimentation, I guess.

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                                  risingfire @16charactersitis
                                  last edited by Mar 5, 2025, 2:59 PM

                                  @16charactersitis I put a lot of time into this idea about two years ago. I don't think those things are really going to move the needle if you truly have the male version of PCOS. You would need DHT, progesterone, thyroid, vitamin D and cypro.

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                                    risingfire @wester130
                                    last edited by Mar 5, 2025, 3:00 PM

                                    @wester130 is male PCOS characterized by hyperandrogenism? I think it would be quite the opposite.

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                                      risingfire @Hando-Jin
                                      last edited by Mar 5, 2025, 3:00 PM

                                      @Hando-Jin The 4 riders of the Cortisol Apocalypse

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                                        wester130 @Hando-Jin
                                        last edited by Mar 5, 2025, 4:36 PM

                                        @Hando-Jin https://karger.com/hrp/article-abstract/65/2/106/372778/Liquorice-in-Moderate-Doses-Does-Not-Affect-Sex?redirectedFrom=fulltext

                                        this says it reduces DHEA-S with little impact on Testosterone

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                                          wester130 @risingfire
                                          last edited by Mar 5, 2025, 4:37 PM

                                          @risingfire

                                          The problem is an overactive adrenal gland mostly

                                          I think it is too much DHEA-S but testosterone is normal

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