what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?
-
@Kvirion said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:
emodin
this feels like a deep set problem in my body, like something is totally failing, like my adrenal gland
but I am not sure
-
-
@wester130 maybe you should try ammonia detox with calcium alpha keto glutarate and Ornithine
-
@wester130 said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:
this feels like a deep set problem in my body, like something is totally failing, like my adrenal gland
Yep, good point. Treat emodin as a temporary fix/mitigation, when you will continue to work on your general health and well-being...
These two products you suggested had too much shitty preservatives inside, etc.
I use this one below in tiny doses - I open the capsule and use only about 1/10 or 1/5 at once. You will need to experiment with your optimal dosage. Too much may make you run to the toilet
(Cascara is a natural source of emodin)
You can also try this one if available https://idealabs.ecwid.com/Lapodin-p70230379
-
@wester130 I can't believe I forgot about cypro. Give it a shot. I have no experience with Phosphatidylserine. I'd look deeper into.
-
@risingfire do you think low dose cabergoline could work?
it seems to reduce prolactin and cortisol
-
@wester130 I'm sure it would lower prolactin but I'm not sure about cortisol. What is your prolactin at?
-
i'm looking into a new idea of male PCOS
so taking things like spearmint, licorice and Vitex to solve it
thoughts?
-
@wester130 stay away from licorice, it’s supposed to be highly estrogenic besides messing with your cortisol. I think mint is fine if it suits you, and have heard good things about vitex, so i guess worth a try.
-
@risingfire said in what is causing body hair/nose hair and ear hair if not androgens?:
@wester130 cortisol
pregnenolone
idea labs cortiNon
cyproheptadine
sugar
-
@Hando-Jin those would not work for hyperandrogenism
-
@wester130 I don't know. You asked for things that lower cortisol, and all of those things do. You won't know without experimentation, I guess.
-
@16charactersitis I put a lot of time into this idea about two years ago. I don't think those things are really going to move the needle if you truly have the male version of PCOS. You would need DHT, progesterone, thyroid, vitamin D and cypro.
-
@wester130 is male PCOS characterized by hyperandrogenism? I think it would be quite the opposite.
-
@Hando-Jin The 4 riders of the Cortisol Apocalypse
-
@Hando-Jin https://karger.com/hrp/article-abstract/65/2/106/372778/Liquorice-in-Moderate-Doses-Does-Not-Affect-Sex?redirectedFrom=fulltext
this says it reduces DHEA-S with little impact on Testosterone
-
The problem is an overactive adrenal gland mostly
I think it is too much DHEA-S but testosterone is normal
-
@wester130 I generally view that as a sign of balding. Too much prolactin
-
even if it is cortisol, wouldn't estrogen be a factor?
Older guys often get lots of nose/ear/back hair but testosterone is lower. What is the relation of cortisol to estrogen? -
@Corngold I honestly don't know.
Many people get good results with finasteride, and things like nettle root, spearmint and vitex.
I think it's an imbalance of hormones, not the amount