Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?
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@wester130 said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:
His love of painting, art and poetry
Peat was old. He did old people stuff. When he was young (as well as later in life) he also was possibly more of a nerd/intelectuall/ scholar/bookworm(I mean none of those words with disrespect). It's likely the time he was born and upbringing, that lead to these preferences, not hormones.
His recommendation of progesterone
He seldomly recommended it to men, and when he did, it was recomended in low doses, often paired with DHEA. He has talked many times about the anti androgenic effects of progesterone.
A preference for an introspective, reflective thoughtful life
This is androgenic.
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@alfredoolivas said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:
He seldomly recommended it to men
He talked about it incessantly, at seemingly every opportunity.
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@Corngold Sure he may of talked about the importance of endogenous progesterone in men but did he specifically recommended men to take substantial exogenous doses of it? Rarely in my opinion.
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When he was younger he did forestry work and played sports! I think he had a good balance of masculine/feminine, if such a thing even exists.
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W wester130 referenced this topic on Mar 18, 2025, 3:49 PM
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I mean, I might invoke the concept of the DHT/T ratio, and DHT trending with a masculine calmness. A lot of behaviors which are thought of as "macho", like aggression and "high libido", can be thought of as the result of a lower DHT/T ratio, and relatively more estrogen (aromatized from testosterone). An adaptation to a violent, higher-stress situation, which prunes other "higher" potentialities. Convict mentality of death looming around the corner.
It's reddit of me to mention, but I think the male hero of Twin Peaks, Dale Cooper, shows a picture of the kind of masculinity Ray was interested in more so. "Eagle Scout" type stuff. Somewhat sensitive, so as to get the job done, but not solipsistically so.
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Email exchange:
Dear Ray,
My life is falling apart. What should I do?Response:
Have you thought about being more "androgenic?"=====================================
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@Dedeluded
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@Rah1woot lol
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@alfredoolivas painting art and poetry isnt “old people stuff”, kind sir.
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@Corngold women led societies are based
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@Corngold said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:
Sure seems goblin ran, beyond male and female.
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Does progesterone decrease libido in men?
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The reply button you're looking for in future is in the top right. Not the one under a post unless you're addressing that person.
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I think answer to the question posted is that it's pretty much true.
A lot of his writing was targeted toward women and I've never heard him recommend testosterone to resolve a problem for anyone.
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@Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:
recommend testosterone
I'd call that a cop out but a lot of deficient bro's using it will never be convinced otherwise. It's the pinnacle of the male condition right. There's definitely no downside. And never mind what's up stream.
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@Dedeluded said in Peat did not believe in the androgenic man?:
It's the "never" that stands out especially for someone that solves problems with hormones so often.
That's why I said cop out, because I don't think it's solving anything really.
You don't honor someones memory by remembering them incorrectly.
Yes, you don't.
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