The funniest/most charming guy i ever seen is on SSRIs
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Background:
His name is Zach Justice. He has a YouTube channel, a podcast, etc., and in all of them, you can clearly see that he owns the room not in a toxic way, but simply because he’s so funny. If the guest or host (he also appears on other podcasts) gets stuck, he immediately brings up a new topic that’s funny, interesting, and engaging.MOST IMPORTANT THING IS: he has literally ZERO SOCIAL INHIBITION( He says whatever he wants, whenever, which is the exact opposite of what we expected from SSRIs)
He’s also really good with girls his whole channel is charming. He interacts with different girls, each with different limits, disabilities, or “nerfs” placed upon him.
Recently, I’ve seen him mention being on Lexapro (an SSRI), which got me wondering:
How can someone be so massively saturated with serotonin and still be the funniest, most charismatic, and most liked person in the room?Any ideas? Could Lexapro actually be helpful for social situations or even more than that?
Note:
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He has some awkward traits, but he either controls them and actively uses them to be funny or less intimidating—or he’s just super lucky that his awkwardness comes off as funny and charming (in a “white hat,” comical way).
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He has a hard time laughing—he’s mentioned in the past that he barely laughs. He usually fakes his laugh to make people feel comfortable, or uses it as a comical punchline. (I expected the opposite, since Lowtoxinforum constantly argues that serotonin makes you laugh uncontrollably.)
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He’s so naturally social that even when unprepared, his subconscious seems social. At least from what I’ve seen—after waking up from sedation following a surgery, he was cracking jokes and fully articulate.
The proof might be staged, but I’ve seen no indication of that (link:https://www.tiktok.com/@zachjustice/video/7301438310055054638)
Links to his channels:
https://m.youtube.com/@Thezachjustice
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@lobotomize-me that isn't real life though. It's a performance.
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OP, your judgement is objectively bad and the evidence is your postings.
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@eduardo-crispino @Corngold I understand that it's all an act, as everything is on the Internet. But looking into it more, he dominates every room. It's not just his podcast or his own show like I said, he also goes on guest shows on completely different channels, which include other social media personalities (who are also putting on an act to be the most liked). Yet he's still the one viewers like the most and find the funniest
If you look at this channel's (https://m.youtube.com/@DavidAlvareeezy/videos) most popular videos (which aren't just "hot guy kisses girl" or "hot girl searches for guy"), you can start to see a trend of him consistently causing videos to blow up.
I know this perspective is a bit shallow, but Zach appears to be dominant in any social setting where he needs to perform and be entertaining often overshadowing strong and solid competition with similar amount of experience (years working in comedy) by miles
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@lobotomize-me Very serotonergic posting by you here.
Relatively stronger people deal with insults up to SSRIs somewhat better. Doesn't mean that he wouldn't be better off without them.
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@lobotomize-me said in The funniest/most charming guy i ever seen is on SSRIs:
he dominates every room.
bruh
what do you mean? he's just a well-paid content clown. he's like Jesse Eisenberg but "tough." Charisma is a two-way street - it requires an attentive audience, friend, girl, whatever. Some people generate that without trying, others have to work at it. internet and ad deals give many average people the illusion of being charismatic, just like actors (Eisenberg's characters would be neurotic incel freak losers in real life, but he seems smart in movies).as far as SSRIs, I'm not sure what to make of this. many people start them, and stay on them. I've read people usually struggle if they change prescriptions or stop taking them. I've heard people feel like zombies and emotionless, but I've heard others get very giddy which I think you're saying he's a bit of, but also charming.
I don't really see anything special about this guy's performance.
So many people are taking this stuff or similar meds without scrips like adderall.
https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/astounding-increase-in-antidepressant-use-by-americans-201110203624 -
@Corngold As I mentioned in my post, when I said "dominates," I didn’t mean that he commands everyone around or shouts black pill stuff at women on his dating shows. What I meant is that he’s the funniest person in any room, it’s so obvious and undeniable that even audiences on other channels can’t get enough of him.
I know reviewing online comedians can be tricky, and it’s hard to draw clear lines between them and others. But as I said, whenever he appears on other shows, the comment sections go wild. Even when he's with what I’d call weaker competitors (other comedians), he still stands out easily.
I also understand that many people feel zombified on SSRIs, which is why it confused me to learn that he’s on them. That’s what led me to do some research specifically on Lexapro. I came across several posts, even on lowtoxinforum.com, where people reported great results from taking it at much lower doses than what doctors typically prescribe as an "active dose" (I believe it was around 3 mg). The only common downside they mentioned was about a week of withdrawal symptoms when stopping. So, like I said, I wanted to revive the discussion around the potential of certain SSRIs to help with anxiety and social inhibition, especially at lower doses
Link:https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/5mg-escitalopram-lexapro-effectively-cured-my-anxiety.32132/
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@Rah1woot Strong or weak, people don't need steroids but will taking steroids make them stronger? Does it matter whether they were strong or weak before if they are now the strongest on stage among other steroid users?
He might be better or funnier without the SSRI, but compared to most other comedians ( whose job is to be the funniest and most entertaining in the room) he still has an edge due to his lower social inhibition. Based on my own experiences and observations while testing different drugs, nootropics, etc., I believe social inhibition depends entirely on the body, not just crystallized knowledge. For example, even if I take something that makes me funny and socially uninhibited for six months (combined with something like Noopept or a racetam, which theoretically enhances learning), once I stop (factoring in a two week withdrawal period) my social anxiety, inhibition, and poor sense of humor come right back
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@lobotomize-me said in The funniest/most charming guy i ever seen is on SSRIs:
which is why it confused me to learn that he’s on them
When in rome.
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lb almost everyone is pulling a trick. Depends what you're going for. I drink a lot of coffee, not sure how I'd "function" without it.
You could try this. Quietly. Without trying to make a point and convince anyone it's a good idea generally.
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@ThinPicking Hey thank you for the advice. I'm not trying to prove a point, just trying to offer some food for thought. Maybe some SSRIs do have potential, and I wanted to start a discussion about why or how some people still function so well (or even better than others) socially while on them
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@ThinPicking ? Wdym
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@lobotomize-me said in The funniest/most charming guy i ever seen is on SSRIs:
Maybe some SSRIs do have potential
Potential for what. There's obviously a reason they've been wildly "successful" in terms of patient compliance. But that's not without context and collateral damage.
I found Ray's work in the middle of a stint on tryptophan and st johns wort. To try to arrest the consequences of corporate grind and social performance. They put me in the strangest "state" I've probably ever been in.
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It's a joke lb but also. You can forgive yourself to an extent. There's something wrong with the configuration of the state around you. Just don't rest on that and assume you don't need to move on too.
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@lobotomize-me as thinpick said, I was reading Peat and others partly because of huge contradictions around Prozac and this stuff. As you said it may help people but how and why are two different things. It can also have adverse effects long term. These things won't change your personality in a good way.
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SSRIs have a side effect which is to increase neurogenesis and it usually takes a while for this to happen, they attribute the positive effects to serotonin but it is probably neurogenesis that is responsible, over time I believe that the consequences outweigh the benefits and we already know what happens to most. The response is individual, some take longer and others sooner.
LSD, DMT, psilocybin, etc., basically work in the same way involving BDNF and TrKB receptors, and if used correctly should probably have far fewer side-effects. The “childlike playfulness” sometimes attributed to serotonin is actually the result of neurogenesis, in my opinion.
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Different SSRIs can act in different ways, and the effects vary person to person. Half the time they don’t work. Sometimes it ends up actually lowering serotonin. Sometimes it just cranks their cortisol which could actually make them feel good at first. The high serotonin can also increase allopregnanolone which is neuroprotective and give you that can’t be bothered feeling. I felt that when I smoked a ton of weed regularly.
The boost in allopregnanolone is probably a defense mechanism to deal with large amounts of brain serotonin though, not like a healthy thing
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@lobotomize-me I’ve been on ssris and they make you not want to talk to people I also suffer with PSSD now. Would not recommend.
No drug wil really cure your social anxiety the only way through social anxiety is to feel the fear and go through it. No pill no supplement no vitamin will cure your soul -
@gg12 >no drug will cure social anxiety
I mean if having a good metabolism through the use of something like t3 or etc is a drug then your statement is completely wrong
someone with a good metabolism and if that is caused from aspirin or t3 or something is way less likely to have social anxiety
the idea that some sorts of therapies are required like psychologist or some sort of mental technique is -- the latter is closer to the truth than former because good energy allows good mental techniques much easier. the former is useless past the basics without good metabolic tendencies
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@lobotomize-me OP I watched some more clips of that guy and the fact you look up to that behavior is funny and in line with your previous neuroses postings where you list 100 supplements and activities you do to optimize
nothing ive seen from him is legitimately funny, it's "funny" sure and I guess everyone has different tastes in entertainment and comedy, there is important information in how he looks and how he behaves. his eyes betray a sadness even though he is being "energetic" and outgoing. I know a guy who became a drug addict who looked just like him including the sad / empty look in his eyes
https://www.tiktok.com/@zachjustice/video/7486033591256878379
look at that clip. do you really find that funny?
