The funniest/most charming guy i ever seen is on SSRIs
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@lobotomize-me said in The funniest/most charming guy i ever seen is on SSRIs:
which is why it confused me to learn that he’s on them
When in rome.
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lb almost everyone is pulling a trick. Depends what you're going for. I drink a lot of coffee, not sure how I'd "function" without it.
You could try this. Quietly. Without trying to make a point and convince anyone it's a good idea generally.
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@ThinPicking Hey thank you for the advice. I'm not trying to prove a point, just trying to offer some food for thought. Maybe some SSRIs do have potential, and I wanted to start a discussion about why or how some people still function so well (or even better than others) socially while on them
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@ThinPicking ? Wdym
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@lobotomize-me said in The funniest/most charming guy i ever seen is on SSRIs:
Maybe some SSRIs do have potential
Potential for what. There's obviously a reason they've been wildly "successful" in terms of patient compliance. But that's not without context and collateral damage.
I found Ray's work in the middle of a stint on tryptophan and st johns wort. To try to arrest the consequences of corporate grind and social performance. They put me in the strangest "state" I've probably ever been in.
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It's a joke lb but also. You can forgive yourself to an extent. There's something wrong with the configuration of the state around you. Just don't rest on that and assume you don't need to move on too.
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@lobotomize-me as thinpick said, I was reading Peat and others partly because of huge contradictions around Prozac and this stuff. As you said it may help people but how and why are two different things. It can also have adverse effects long term. These things won't change your personality in a good way.
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@lobotomize-me
SSRIs have a side effect which is to increase neurogenesis and it usually takes a while for this to happen, they attribute the positive effects to serotonin but it is probably neurogenesis that is responsible, over time I believe that the consequences outweigh the benefits and we already know what happens to most. The response is individual, some take longer and others sooner.
LSD, DMT, psilocybin, etc., basically work in the same way involving BDNF and TrKB receptors, and if used correctly should probably have far fewer side-effects. The “childlike playfulness” sometimes attributed to serotonin is actually the result of neurogenesis, in my opinion.
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Different SSRIs can act in different ways, and the effects vary person to person. Half the time they don’t work. Sometimes it ends up actually lowering serotonin. Sometimes it just cranks their cortisol which could actually make them feel good at first. The high serotonin can also increase allopregnanolone which is neuroprotective and give you that can’t be bothered feeling. I felt that when I smoked a ton of weed regularly.
The boost in allopregnanolone is probably a defense mechanism to deal with large amounts of brain serotonin though, not like a healthy thing
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@lobotomize-me I’ve been on ssris and they make you not want to talk to people I also suffer with PSSD now. Would not recommend.
No drug wil really cure your social anxiety the only way through social anxiety is to feel the fear and go through it. No pill no supplement no vitamin will cure your soul -
@gg12 >no drug will cure social anxiety
I mean if having a good metabolism through the use of something like t3 or etc is a drug then your statement is completely wrong
someone with a good metabolism and if that is caused from aspirin or t3 or something is way less likely to have social anxiety
the idea that some sorts of therapies are required like psychologist or some sort of mental technique is -- the latter is closer to the truth than former because good energy allows good mental techniques much easier. the former is useless past the basics without good metabolic tendencies
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@lobotomize-me OP I watched some more clips of that guy and the fact you look up to that behavior is funny and in line with your previous neuroses postings where you list 100 supplements and activities you do to optimize
nothing ive seen from him is legitimately funny, it's "funny" sure and I guess everyone has different tastes in entertainment and comedy, there is important information in how he looks and how he behaves. his eyes betray a sadness even though he is being "energetic" and outgoing. I know a guy who became a drug addict who looked just like him including the sad / empty look in his eyes
https://www.tiktok.com/@zachjustice/video/7486033591256878379
look at that clip. do you really find that funny?
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@eduardo-crispino It makes sense that he has some clips where he’s just downright babbling no one can be constantly upbeat and funny 24/7. Even the happiest/most energetic people, when forced in long conversations where they’re carrying the weight of it, experience short drops in brain activity. That can lead them to either say something they think is funny (but isn’t) or fall silent for a few seconds.
I believe the manner I started this thread was incorrect, because I am not here to discuss him. Rather I wanted to discuss the potential of SSRIs beyond raising serotonin (which we acknowledge is mostly harmful)
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@NoeticJuice Yo I actually really like that idea. Also bro where can I get kanna also Im gonna try taking NAC
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@lobotomize-me
5-HT is the scientific name for serotonin.
5-HT1A is one of the receptors for Serotonin in the brain.
Lexapro downregulates the 5-HT1A receptor, e.g. makes it less likely to activate.
That ironically means Lexapro is an Serotonin Antagonist.So it increases Serotonin, but at the same time makes you somewhat immune to the effects of Serotonin. What you are seeing is the effect of a Antiserotonic Drug that is at the same time also an SSRI.
You might get a similar effect from Progesterone or oral GABA, without risking your health from the reuptake inhibition.
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Idk. I had a cousin who was smart, entertaining and someone people would envy. Then he committed suicide. One of those people that you are baffled by the news and can't understand it.
It's not the first time that I have had this experience in my life. One of my highschool friends also suicided on the night of the graduation. It was a very popular and as it seemed balanced guy with a great future ahead, so we thought.
How people portray themselves to the outside world has nothing to do with how they really are inside. Some people have become very good at fooling everyone around them. -
Sad.
@happyhanneke said in The funniest/most charming guy i ever seen is on SSRIs:
Some people have become very good at fooling everyone around them.
I think this can also happen internally.
