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Life long health problems + sleep

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    Luke
    last edited by Luke 14 days ago 14 days ago

    Goede avond Danny,

    you said you tried substances like glycine and magnesium before bed and it didn't help. Has your sleep not only not improved but perhaps even worsened? I ask because substances that should help with sleep (like magnesium, glycine or taurine) do the opposite to me and worsen my insomnia if taken before sleep. It's often overlooked because they should help in theory (and help many other people in reality).

    Do you pay intention to other "basics" in the evening like not having too much blue light (blue light filter on electronic devices or blue light filtering glasses), maybe some light stretching in the evening to calm down? That you have problems sleeping through the night could also indicate liver problems.

    From my own experience, a chronic stressed state from fasting abuse, sleep problems and possibly overtraining is hard to overcome and it takes months to feel normal again.

    Like others have said, it might be a good idea to space out the solid meals throughout the day while you're recovering. Maybe small snacks throughout the day, but a combination of carbs, some protein and some fat and salt with every meal.

    I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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      gg12 @DannyM
      last edited by 13 days ago

      @DannyM you got sleep apnea my man get double jaw sirgery check out the yt channel jaw hacks

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        samson @DannyM
        last edited by samson 13 days ago 13 days ago

        @DannyM are you waking up in the middle of the night with these stress symptoms? If so, you need to set an alarm for about an hour before you'd typically wake up, have a glass of milk with a heaping tablespoon of sugar, then go back to bed. Do this for a week and see if things improve.

        as for the unwanted weight gain, try upping the calcium intake with eggshell powder. you want a 1.2-1 cal to phos ratio.

        Low ferritin is generally seen as positive

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          nygaardAB
          last edited by 12 days ago

          Hey man, how ARE you?

          Are you doing something you like, that motivates you to be a healthy, fulfilled person?

          Do you have good people around you?

          Why do you think you slept so good that one nigh, if you try to find reasons besides what you ate?

          From reading your post, you sound like you need to change more things than just diet. I think your environment, routines and life situation are just as important factors here. After all, we are more than biological machines

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            Kilgore @nygaardAB
            last edited by 12 days ago

            @nygaardAB Is this a bot chat?

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              ThinPicking @Kilgore
              last edited by 11 days ago

              Not very holistic but still a valid angle.

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                ThinPicking @nygaardAB
                last edited by 11 days ago

                Vérité. That you?

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                  cs3000 @DannyM
                  last edited by cs3000 10 days ago 10 days ago

                  @DannyM Do you dream a lot? or early wakeups without that?

                  i think its 2 separate things

                  1. is sleeping through the night (enough carb intake and ability to process, 200g vs 300g makes the difference for me, and good enough liver health so glycogen isnt impaired)

                  2. getting right sleep architecture so you actually get restorative feeling sleep (good slow wave sleep duration and not too much REM or REM onset too early, looks more to do with having good t3 for a month+ , maybe thermogenesis capacity during sleep, not having sleep apnea or getting a machine if do while trying to fix baseline hypothyroidism)

                  "world," as a source of new perceptions
                  more https://substack.com/@cs3001

                  "Self-organizing systems decay only if they have assimilated inertia and — with a little support of the right kind— the centers of degeneration can become centers of regeneration"

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                    16charactersitis
                    last edited by 10 days ago

                    Try sleeping face down (on your tummy) if you can. That’s the best position for your gut (ray said to someone in an email) as well as for breathing.

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                      nygaardAB @nygaardAB
                      last edited by nygaardAB 6 days ago 6 days ago

                      @Kilgore No, last time I checked I was not bot

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                        Kilgore @nygaardAB
                        last edited by 6 days ago

                        @nygaardAB Okay lol.

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