Has anyone improved their health by peating
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@Gardner the community diet is formed on rays recommendations, most of them stopped eating starch because he said so then in his last days he ate ostmeal therefore the peatards ate oatmeal themselves. They are neurotic slaves to their messsiah peat. Whats funny in his last years peat did 180 on all his diet recommendations he pushed and thats why is a meme diet
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@lykos said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:
stop writing obtuse messages to excuse your lack of arguments, you know very well what tripping means, you havent posted one argument in this thread all your post are reactionary.
Reactionary fake peating.
Happy new year lykos.
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@lykos said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:
the community diet is formed on rays recommendations, most of them stopped eating starch because he said so then in his last days he ate ostmeal therefore the peatards ate oatmeal themselves. They are neurotic slaves to their messsiah peat. Whats funny in his last years peat did 180 on all his diet recommendations he pushed and thats why is a meme diet
Wow.
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@ThinPicking happy new year and to you sir
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@lykos Unhealthy and dogmatic people tend to be like that. Sadly that are often the loudest too. Roddy is a great example
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@lykos lol. I don't think he started downing pufa in his later years but maybe I'm wrong.
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@Corngold his pufa stance is the only thing he kept and the only thing you should take from his meme diet
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@lykos why are you even on this forum if you think he was a fraud? Lmao. He wasn't infallible.
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@Corngold the answer is because xer is seething and malding. probably a newly converted tradcath stuck in saviour narratives disappointed that peat isnt a saviour like xer thinks he needs to cope with the aforementioned malding
but dont worry , in two weeks xer is taking back Europe and instituting a fascist ethnostate.... then xer will get everything he needs... women will be treated like property again,.... two more sneeds...
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@Corngold spread the truth, this forum is not peat echo chamber, its for alternative health enthusiasts and physiologists
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@Corngold To be fair, there is no peat diet.
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@lykos OK. What's your wisdom?
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@Corngold ray peatâs followers are cringe and gay, i do respect peat.
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@lykos again, why are you on an overtly Peat-centered forum?
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@heyman said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:
@Corngold To be fair, there is no peat diet.
Well seen.
I'm not going to develop here ; I think you can guess why (=> crocolions).
If you want to know why, here is an intro. Need
Ray Peatâs Diet â There is no RP diet!
https://mirzoune-ciboulette.forumactif.org/t2160-english-corner-ray-peats-diet-there-is-no-rp-diet#30534
Introduction
Energy management is key for optimizing mitochondrial breath. What kind, how much and at which rhythm is dependent on how your thyroid sense the metabolism through hormonal and electro-chemical balance. There is no well-defined regimen that is valid â at the same time â for people seeking to optimize/increase fuel levels and for people trying to restore a failing or insufficient functional balance.
Understanding this nuance is the first step toward a precision strategy. Itâs not just about "eating healthyâ, but about restoring the dialogue between your intake and your cellular needs. By learning to adjust the right leversâfrom enzymatic cofactors to electrolyte balanceâyou can transform nutrition into a powerful tool for regeneration, tailored to the reality of your own metabolic terrain.
Context:
Although there is a book titled "The Ray Peat Survival Guide: Understanding, Using, and Realistically Applying the Dietary Ideas of Dr. Ray Peat" on amazon.com for about $8, written by JL and subtitled "Trying to Survive on Milk, Gelatin, Orange Juice, and Coffee?", the author explains how to separate fact from fiction. This teaches the fundamental principles of Peat's precepts, not the distorted version heard everywhere else.
Comment (LucH):
This approach could be interesting â I havenât even read the book â if the author didnât present himself as the representative or universal legatee of âthe RP "doctrine", if indeed there is such a thing as a doctrine. Understand me clearly: I'm not ranting, I'm not deconstructing anything; I'm simply saying that some people are exploiting every opportunity, taking advantage of others in the process. Let me explain differently. The author has likely read and analyzed RP's articles. He then categorized them more or less appropriately according to the main metabolic functions, commenting on one or two esoteric passages, and probably influencing the conclusion based on his own intuition.
Now letâs try to be more practical and put in excerpt one main contraindication or weakness: As long you manage energy well, you metabolize well, to say it shortly, you may be able drink half a liter orange (+/ 0.13 gallon) and eat 150 g liver beef (+/ 5 oz.) but I wonât do that with a weak metabolism. See Catherine Kousmine if you want to understand; you have to adapt the density and the amount to the capacity of your assimilation rate.
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@LucH all that text,not to answer on why "there isnt a ray peat diet". Can you write in clear words, why is a diet that is based on ray peat ideas, illegitimate to be called a ray peat diet, compare to any other diet label?
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@user1 ray peat diet doesnt exist because peatards said so
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As I mentioned on the given link, Ray Peat is not applied to repair âa broken fragmentâ with inappropriate doses; its principles are used to optimize a metabolism that has been previously stabilized through a holistic approach.
Optimizing metabolism
Optimizing means facilitating unimpeded hormonal communication, without pushing the accelerator pedal too hard, if we don't want to flood the system. This means allowing energy to reach the mitochondria very gradually, in stages, without an excess of residues that the liver and kidneys would have to get rid of.
Now donât ask someone to explain sth that doesnât exist or to proof it, unless you want me to consider you as a crocolion.
Figure of a crocolion. See the problem?
In those confusing times, he'd forgotten to take down all the mirrors, so he wouldn't have to think too much. See what happens when a crocolion keeps dwelling on negative thoughts. They turn into shitty ideas that he can no longer get rid ofâŠExcerpt:
In summary
If I were to paraphrase, to give an image, Iâd say RPâs advices should be seen as an objective to be achieved, with a view to a destination (a metabolism able to burn carbs and processing dense nutrients), and not as a starting point when you begin / correct what interferes with a slow metabolism. Kousmine teaches us how to repair pipes; Peat teaches us how to increase water pressure. Doing the opposite risks flooding.
PS: Additional questions to debate:
What is âan objective to achieveâ? The answer is already in the text: Optimizing mitochondrial breath.
What is âa broken fragmentâ? Any element that function on an erratic way.
How to proceed? See a clue on the given link
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@LucH said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:
As I mentioned on the given link, Ray Peat is not applied to repair âa broken fragmentâ with inappropriate doses; its principles are used to optimize a metabolism that has been previously stabilized through a holistic approach
Irelevant as it does not answer the question.
Now donât ask someone to explain sth that doesnât exist or to proof it, unless you want me to consider you as a crocolion.
Figure of a crocolion. See the problem?
In those confusing times, he'd forgotten to take down all the mirrors, so he wouldn't have to think too much. See what happens when a crocolion keeps dwelling on negative thoughts. They turn into shitty ideas that he can no longer get rid ofâŠYou are more confused and have more shitty ideas than you think you actually do, dont project your own tendencies. A good part of your comments are partly i.a. generated worthless slop.
Excerpt:
In summary
If I were to paraphrase, to give an image, Iâd say RPâs advices should be seen as an objective to be achieved, with a view to a destination (a metabolism able to burn carbs and processing dense nutrients), and not as a starting point when you begin / correct what interferes with a slow metabolism. Kousmine teaches us how to repair pipes; Peat teaches us how to increase water pressure. Doing the opposite risks flooding.
PS: Additional questions to debate:
What is âan objective to achieveâ? The answer is already in the text: Optimizing mitochondrial breath.
What is âa broken fragmentâ? Any element that function on an erratic way.
How to proceed? See a clue on the given link Not sure it will be accepted or function in all circumstances, but itâs a starting point to consider.None of that yap prove that calling a diet inspired on raymond peat ideas "ray peat diet" is more illĂ©gitimate than labeling any other diet.
It's simple: names/labels/words are practical tools for exchanging information and saving time. When people use the label âRay Peat diet,â they are not implying that Ray Peat himself eats exactly that all the time, down to the last detail. The label is simply used to name a diet that is based on Ray Peat's ideas and claims. People aren't going to say âa low PUFA, high calcium-phosphorus ratio, ripe fruit and/or sugar rather than starch, liver from time to time, raw carrot salad, while adjusting what they eat to feel their best and potentially taking their temperature and pulse Diet" every time they want to name their diet that is based on Ray Peat's ideas.
So there is absolutely no significant difference from other diet labels (carnivore, paleo, animal-based, keto...etc) that makes the use of the label âRay Peat dietâ illegitimate, even saying âperceive, think, actâ doesn't change that. No amount of yap and i.a. slop will change that.
So if you want to claim that âthere is no Ray Peat dietâ explain why other diets are legitimate to be labeled and named, but not the Ray Peat diet,
And also explain how labeling a diet based on ray peat ideas as"ray peat diet" isnt one if not the most pratical and usefull way to label it, considering that Raymond Peat him self did not explicitly chose a label for diets inspired by his ideas, compare to some other people such as paul saladino who use"animal based diet", also considering that some people such as Charlie use the label" bioenergetic"inspired way of living on his forum, while promoting rice muscle meat and bean diet and big dose of many supplements, and while he said Ray peat ideas are toxic, why would you lump Ray peat ideas with any other abused meme label such as "bioenergetic" rather than "Ray Peat Diet"? When the later label is the closest to Ray Peat ideas and people will directly stumble upon Ray peat books, website, and videos at the top of the list if they do a google search"Ray peat", wont happen if they google search"bioenergetic"
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@LucH said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:
Now donât ask someone to explain sth that doesnât exist or to proof it, unless you want me to consider you as a crocolion.
Figure of a crocolion. See the problem?
In those confusing times, he'd forgotten to take down all the mirrors, so he wouldn't have to think too much. See what happens when a crocolion keeps dwelling on negative thoughts. They turn into shitty ideas that he can no longer get rid ofâŠ
Happy New Year LucH!
