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    Reversal of hair loss in Mice with “sugar gel”

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      wester130 @LetTheRedeemed
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      amazingly someone was talking about topical ribose 10 years ago

      https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/dermal-benefits-of-topical-d-ribose.69208/

      and

      https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t12338-i-d-be-willing-to-pay-for-experimental-treatments-for-people-for-my-own-interests

      and

      https://immortalhair.forumotion.com/t11589-has-anyone-used-ribose?highlight=ribose

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        wester130 @Mauritio
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        @Mauritio

        I had a realisation

        It is not sugar you need, but ATP, so things like Ribose would be better

        I think some people confuse the two

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          LetTheRedeemed @wester130
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          @wester130 someone quoted somewhere in here, that Ray said that the cells confuse pure ATP as leaking components from a damaged cell, and create an immune response, thus counterintuitive to use (I wonder if this is similar to how whole proteins induce a cytokine storm).

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            wester130 @LetTheRedeemed
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            @LetTheRedeemed what does this mean for people applying topical ATP precursors to their scalp?

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              LetTheRedeemed @wester130
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              @wester130 Good q, it was implied that's bad, but I don't know beyond "immune response bad" is my assumption

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                wester130 @LetTheRedeemed
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                @LetTheRedeemed

                i think he meant direct ATP supplementation, I remember the quote, he said taking direct ATP was bad

                the precursors like coq10, ribose, creatine, magnesium malate which covnert to atp look Okay.

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                  LetTheRedeemed @wester130
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                  @wester130 oh wow so sorry I missed this, I thought you meant supplementation of ATP LOL.

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                    Hearthfire @wester130
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                    @wester130

                    Some good anedotes online of people regrowing lots of hair using coq10 for extended periods.

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                      wester130 @Hearthfire
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                      @Hearthfire topically?

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                        Hearthfire @wester130
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                        @wester130

                        No, oral. Just regular coq10, 400mg.

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                          Mossy @Hearthfire
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                          Will you be using ubiquinone? In my search to find if there is a pro-Peat consensus between the two versions, I see you mention about first using ubiquinol, but planned on switching to ubiquinone. Just curious of your take on it. I also see on that thread the mention of it being good for gum health. I used to use a toothpaste CoQ10 and used to have very good gums — per a dental check up after a 12 year absence. I think I'll attempt to kill two birds — hair and gums — with CoQ10.

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