WICKED SORE THROAT + I got the FLU ----- HELP ------
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Last Friday I started to get a sore throat which was not that bad, then by the night I got a fever which turned into fever dream and I couldn't sleep at all. Since then my sore throat has only gotten worse and worse I can't sleep, can't eat, can't focus on programming the pain is just so intolerable. Yesterday I was at the Doctor and she said that I got the flu.
I have tried everything, baths, aspirin, red light, my stomach contents are 85% throat candy, gargling with salt water, nothing reduced the pain until I started taking Nurofen (200mg ibuprofen & 500mp paracetamol).
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Sorry to hear you are feeling so horrible from the flu
It looks like maybe testosteronemaxxing could be effective, along with these:
"...their severity can be controlled not only by administration of androgens but by various measures aimed at controlling PUFA availability and its metabolism, considering PUFA is the main driver of inflammation. Namely, dietary PUFA restriction, lipolysis inhibition (aspirin, niacinamide), lipid peroxidation inhibition (vitamin E), COX/LOX inhibition, etc. should all help both increase resistance to viral infections and accelerate recovery from them."
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@Kilgore i suggest stay as warm as possible as long as it is confortable, day and night
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Plentybof rest helps a lot but sleep is difficult if your breathing is restricted. Helps to sleep in a reclining position.
Since a fever helps kill microbes, wrap yourself in a blanket as you sleep and let it sweat as the heat induces more antimicrobial action.
Drinking plenty of water may be harder, as water tastes bland. I used to drink 7Up as a child, but colas then had real sugar, which is better than the sugar substitutes in soda these days.
Gargling with salt is very helpful.
Taking Benadryl helps me sleep.
Since it is also harder to eat when sick, I dont force myself to eat when I don't feel like it. Digesting food uses energy and it diverts the energy needes for healing. Just eat light. I would eat rice porridge with dry meat flakes, which is easily found in asian grocery stores.
Im not keen on taking paracetamol or NSAIDs. Lowering body temperature is counterproductive.
Sleep is the best way as it let's the body recover. Without sleep, medication is useless as medicine is not the primary way to heal from flu. It ia an aid to potentiate the real solution.
Hope this helps.
Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
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@engineer Interesting thx.
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@user1 @yerrag Thanks for the answers.
Should I take thyroid? I forgot to mention that when I had the fever I did take a quarter of cynoplus. I don't know if that is what caused the fever or not.@yerrag said in WICKED SORE THROAT + I got the FLU ----- HELP ------:
Im not keen on taking paracetamol or NSAIDs. Lowering body temperature is counterproductive.
See. I did not know that they do that. Im starting to feel less of their effects as I am getting to sleep time.
I will try to sleep more. I have to.
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If you're normothyroid to begin with, your fever may be a result of your body having the ability to raise temperature when needed. You don't need to thyroid at all.
Since our immune system creates ROS to destroy pathogens, these ROS may spill over to cause oxidative stress, our body has to rely on ita primary antioxidants to counter oxidative stress.
These processes consume energy that would divert rhe body from optimal mitochondrial oxidation. Because less CO2 is produced, the body can become acidic and this disrupts the virtuous cycle needed by the body to be keep running in a self-correcting and rebalancing manner. Less CO2 in blood may also restrict tissue oxygenation, and lead to less energy produced while increasing lactic acid production while decreasing CO2 production.
Taking baking soda, drinking carbonated water, or breathing carbogen will provide an external source of CO2 and bicarbonate to compensate for the temporary shortfall in endogenous CO2 production. Drinking citrus fruit juices also provides bicarbonate as rhe citrate readily xonverts to bicarbonate in the body.
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@kilgore benzocaine spray comes in handy to take the edge off, maybe enough to sleep at least
cistus tea or geranium pelargonium sidoides root) extract if tolerated might help it resolve it a day or 2 sooner -
This is such NPC advice, but drink a lot of water.
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for future reference, 5mg methylene blue, 500mg vitamin c, and like 1-2 mg cyproheptadine is my go-to for if I feel like something might be coming on. and like 10,000 iu vitamin d whereas my normal dose when I take it (not in summer time) is 3000iu
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Oregano oil. 4 drops on tongue! It’s like warm hellfire to evil throat bastards.
Probably should be drinking nac + glycine combo. 1/4 tsp each couple few times a day.
Stay warm.
Aspirin. Then more aspirin.
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After sleeping and staying in bed all throughout yesterday I feel much better. Now I am just coughing, still a little sore throat but I think that's battle damage. I think sleeping it off was the most important thing.
@yerrag said in WICKED SORE THROAT + I got the FLU ----- HELP ------:
Taking baking soda, drinking carbonated water, or breathing carbogen will provide an external source of CO2 and bicarbonate to compensate for the temporary shortfall in endogenous CO2 production. Drinking citrus fruit juices also provides bicarbonate as rhe citrate readily xonverts to bicarbonate in the body.
Ill do this. Thanks for the detailed advice as always.
@cs3000 said in WICKED SORE THROAT + I got the FLU ----- HELP ------:
@kilgore benzocaine spray comes in handy to take the edge off, maybe enough to sleep at least
cistus tea or geranium pelargonium sidoides root) extract if tolerated might help it resolve it a day or 2 soonerSpray made me feel terrible I couldn't stand it!
@alfredoolivas said in WICKED SORE THROAT + I got the FLU ----- HELP ------:
This is such NPC advice, but drink a lot of water.
True. Need water to sweat out toxins!
@sunsunsun said in WICKED SORE THROAT + I got the FLU ----- HELP ------:
for future reference, 5mg methylene blue, 500mg vitamin c, and like 1-2 mg cyproheptadine is my go-to for if I feel like something might be coming on. and like 10,000 iu vitamin d whereas my normal dose when I take it (not in summer time) is 3000iu
I dont have mb or cypro but I will stock up on those for sure. Im popping a lot of vitamin c now!
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bicarb
some think the 'flu' is actually an acidosis
I have been able to induce all the symptoms of a cold, in varying
degree from a simple coryza to that of la grippe and the "flu," by the
induction of an artificial acidosis through the administration of ammo
nium and calcium chlorides. The degree of severity of the symptoms
was in direct ratio to the degree of acidosis induced. In the severer
degree of acidosis, all the classical symptoms of the "flu" were present,
even including a low degree of fever. The symptoms rapidly subsided
upon the administration of sodium bicarbonate in large doses by mouth
and by rectum.
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@Hando-Jin Rectum????
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Still coughing
Over the night my tube fills up with mucus so I start to cough because of that then once that clears out I have a more dry type of cough I think. Either way it usually turns into a fit and it takes me some time to calm down and stop. Will try sodium bicarb rn. -
@Kilgore, I’m sorry to hear you’re still suffering.
Not the most comfortable, but if you don’t already do so maybe sleeping propped up with pillows will help prevent mucus from accumulating overnight? And a teaspoon of honey throughout the day might help with the lingering cough? My dad had a residual dry cough after having the flu at the beginning of this year and honey helped. Also, lozenges—I always keep a bag of these in the pantry:I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith
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I hear you. Take medicine. Make chicken lemon soup with lots of gelatin and mostly broth. Oranges and sunlight when possible.
I was sick three times from early September to March. Many people I know and work with have been sick off and on in this time frame too with "covid" / flu, etc. Last month, after getting better from a cold, I got food poisoning, at least I think it was this due to a meal I purchased that made me feel ill. Thing is, I heard several other people had similar "stomach flu" at the same time. Maybe bacteria entering the food from workers? I don't know. Then after getting over that stomach flu / bile disruption, I got another cold. Now, I still see people getting sick from what appears to be that wave from the last 2 weeks. The weather has been, in my own estimation, extreme: a very cold winter with several heavy snows, and a very manic spring with jumps from high of 80s to lows in the 20s. And of course the manufactured "clouds" appear nearly every day bringing dry/itchy heat, too.
My theory is Tchijevsky was onto something with solar activity and human health. We're at the top of the 11 year solar cycle, the last peak being around 2015-2016. This is when sunspots are at a maximum. Check out the article below:
- Most magnetic storms on Earth happen during the Equinoxes in March and September
https://www.thesuntoday.org/space-weather/what-is-solar-maximum/
Weird enough, because I was sick early in September and the last week of March just after the Equinox (and also in January).
Again, if we know we're at the peak of geomagnetic storms, then we should prepare to stay healthy. But the cycle suggests we're entering healthier times for the next 5+ years.
A paper on the 11-yr solar cycle, viamin D, etc:
https://sci-hub.ru/10.1016/j.mehy.2009.12.002Conclusion
Arguments have been advanced in support of the hypothesis that influenza pandemics are intimately connected with solar cycle control of vitamin D levels in humans. As discussed, solar ultraviolet B (UV-B) radiation which is the main production source of vitamin D in humans waxes and wanes over the Schwabe solar cycles. It is proposed that maximum vitamin D production levels at the earth’s surface which occur during solar cycle minimum would provide prophylactic protection and promote immune system well being against influenza. Contrariwise, it is proposed that minimum vitamin D production levels at the earth’s surface which occur during solar cycle maximum would prove detrimental by failure to promote adequate levels of prophylactic protection and immune system well being. It is further proposed that changes in vitamin D levels, perhaps even of a relatively modest nature, could trigger factors important in controlling influenza infectivity. As developed, vitamin D levels at the earth’s surface arise both directly through solar cycle control of the amount of UV-B radiation, and indirectly through control of atmospheric circulation and dynamics with examples of the latter processes having been cited. Both the direct and indirect processes are important in support of the hypothesis being presented here: solar cyclic control of human vitamin D levels and influenza pandemics.
Also:
Under cloud-free skies, the most important atmospheric factors affecting surface UV radiation are stratospheric ozone, followed by tropospheric ozone and aerosols and, to a lesser extent, NO2 and SO2 and other trace gases in the atmosphere of urban areas [23]. (Outside the region affected by the Antarctic ozone hole, changes in ultraviolet radiation due to anthropogenic trace gases are rather small and are within the range of variability from other causes
[24]). Changes in total atmospheric ozone are dominated by how much ozone is in the mid- to lower-stratosphere, with approximately ninety percent of the atmosphere’s total ozone column being located in the stratosphere [25]. -
@dapose said in WICKED SORE THROAT + I got the FLU ----- HELP ------:
Oregano oil. 4 drops on tongue! It’s like warm hellfire to evil throat bastards.
Probably should be drinking nac + glycine combo. 1/4 tsp each couple few times a day.
Stay warm.
Aspirin. Then more aspirin.
Bone broth soup.How much oil is contained in dry oregano? Because I put oregano / herb mixes in my soup and that makes the flavor better, seems to help with sickness too, just like herbal tea.
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@Jennifer Ill try to take more honey. I already sleep with raised pillows. Thank you!
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@Corngold Interesting stuff. So many people are getting sick now.
