Ray Peat's Age Of Death
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@Buckian said in Ray Peat's Age Of Death:
For Peats age cohort, the life expectancy is 60ish (at birth). Peat lived to just shy of 90 years. This means he outlived the expectations by just under 50% or more than two decades.
It may not be the best metric to use, but based on the data Haidut shared his statement doesn’t seem to imply he’s “retarded” (well to a rational person I guess).
I think Haidut’s statement may have been misconstrued. although I don’t think he used actuarial terminology completely accurately in the RPF - having said this and no hate to you - your understanding of average age at death vs outliving the average person in a cohort vs life expectancy seems limited - judging from your questions in this thread. It might be helpful to not judge him on something that you don’t comprehend.
it's cope
ray peat talked shit on immortality and lived a meager 86 years of age, less than both of my grandfathers
assuming a constant mortality across time is retarded when the current mean's already higher@Orkneyman_ said in Ray Peat's Age Of Death:
@haidut_retard Haidut lives very high stress life to my knowledge. Multiple jobs, kids and running a supplement company. It would explain why he looks old and is overweight. He is clearly a very smart guy, I have only listened to a few interviews of his and I already have that impression.
it's cope. his 'job' is to have his bulgarian friends illegally ship medicine, for a multiple of the price they paid for it. working one job and having a family doesn't make you fat and overweight. shit genetics and a poor diet are the real cause
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@brad a jew running a board defending marxist filth. is anybody surprised
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@haidut_retard Italian*
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@haidut_retard mate maybe stay in school
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@brad said in Ray Peat's Age Of Death:
@haidut_retard Italian*
i'm sure that's how you identify
@insufferable said in Ray Peat's Age Of Death:
- A free speech zone should accept and applaud an aggressive style, nothing is more important than truth.
- lots of old people in my family lived longer than ray. While Ray was still alive, do you think any hardcore peater thought ray would die at 86? Of course not. Maybe I'm making this up, but I think I remember seeing posts like "when ray is 130, the mainstream will start taking notice!" Furthermore, peating implies that it can reverse damage so why would ray's 1940's childhood damage make him more susceptible to early death?
- i think people live longer today because pharma can "stretch" your lifespan (with a horrible quality of life) - old people are living decades with drug-managed degenerative conditions, while in the past they would have died before getting to that point. Since I doubt Ray was on any pharma and stayed very energetic and sharp up until quite close to the end, I think his "un-drugged and high quality-of-life lifespan" is definitely a lot longer than average for any group. But it is not super exceptional, which IS what many people were expecting.
- peating endorses a mental state of joyful calm and a physical state of visibly glowing vitality. These things to be achievable through the biological means outlined by Ray. Haidut simply does not look or sound like that, he sometimes gives the impression of a man that drank a pot of coffee and then got stuck in traffic for an hour. Probably it's due to being a small business owner which is a very distressing occupation. (ive never seen an unstressed small businessman - haidut fits the pattern ive seen, and experienced myself) This is understandable, but one must note that peating is apparently not able to completely block these problems.
- haidut is doing difficult and valuable things and putting himself out in public for the world to judge, so I give him credit. I am not hating, only stating what I perceive to be obviously true and what should be considered, lest cults form.
- i think peating is great but people overestimate what it can accomplish and then get disillusioned. I am not going to live to 150.
i'm chilling out with a lot of them in telegram groups, they're fine
one dude has 2 kids he's buff af
not as buff as me but still, buff@Buckian said in Ray Peat's Age Of Death:
@haidut_retard mate maybe stay in school
still in it come at me bruv
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This is such a cope
ray peat looked very young
Also not DYING IN OLD AGE = you need some luck that you don"t get a weird infection or dissease , pure luck
Also raypeat did not even follow his own raypeat rules, i can give you many examples
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@brad thank God.
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@basednigga2006 said in Ray Peat's Age Of Death:
This is such a cope
ray peat looked very young
Also not DYING IN OLD AGE = you need some luck that you don"t get a weird infection or dissease , pure luck
Also raypeat did not even follow his own raypeat rules, i can give you many examples
the cope is unreal. man looked older than his age with the hair loss and lack of teeth. he sounded like his body was disintegrating (apparently it was)
that last cope is especially scrumptious, it's the same cope you use to explain Georgi's obesity, balding, bloating and aging
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@Aryan_Racist said in Ray Peat's Age Of Death:
@brad thank God.
his name and face are jewish, one more cryptojew i guess
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Ray Peat’s cause of death:
https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/ray-peats-cause-of-death.48656/
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@brad isn’t Cohn a version of Cohen? That’s what most people must have assumed.
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@Logan said in Ray Peat's Age Of Death:
@brad isn’t Cohn a version of Cohen? That’s what most people must have assumed.
it's an (((italian))) name
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@Logan said in Ray Peat's Age Of Death:
@brad isn’t Cohn a version of Cohen? That’s what most people must have assumed.
“Cohen (one of the Kohanim; a member of the priestly caste) = Kohen, Kohn, Cohn, Kuhn (also a non-Jewish German surname), Kahn, Kohan, Koch, Cook, Kagan, Kogan, Cogen, Kahan, Cahan, Cowen, Cowan, Cullen, Kahane, Cahane, Kaban, Kaganovich, Kaun, Caine”
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@Logan @haidut_retard Ashkenazi Jews are Italian originally, so maybe he is Jewish and Italian? idk I don't like this though @brad please comment
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the cope is unreal. man looked older than his age with the hair loss and lack of teeth. he sounded like his body was disintegrating (apparently it was)
While I think it's largely subjective to determine how old he looks (my mom was shocked at how young he looked after listening to his interviews lol), it's worth noting that his tooth decay came from one point in time much younger, when he was living on flax seed for protein, and multiple teeth began falling out at once. He didn't have worn down tooth nubs indicating some long term dental decline as you see with actual cases of tooth decay.
Other than the obviously missing teeth, his teeth didn't look bad in this interview.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqhlIOt5sUwIf you can offer any other evidence that he was losing teeth up until the point of death, I'm all ears.
that last cope is especially scrumptious, it's the same cope you use to explain Georgi's obesity, balding, bloating and aging
"I usually think about something for a long time before I get around to integrating it into my life, sometimes because old habits have to be changed, but usually because our social organization is set up to do things in conventional ways...
"Although I pointed out a long time ago the antithyroid effects of excessive cysteine and tryptophan from eating only the muscle meats, and have been recommending gelatinous broth at bedtime to stop nocturnal stress, it took me many years to begin to experiment with large amounts of gelatin in my diet."
https://raypeat.com/articles/articles/gelatin.shtmlIn an email exchange, someone asked him the single most important nutritional effort for longevity (cal/phos ratio; thyroid; inflammatory protein ratio; some nutrient; etc), and he said balancing the inflammatory proteins with anti-inflammatory proteins, aka gelatin.
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@Logan said in Ray Peat's Age Of Death:
@brad isn’t Cohn a version of Cohen? That’s what most people must have assumed.
@brad could you share the reason why you chose not to reply?
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@Logan it shouldn’t matter if he’s a Jew. If someone asked me that question I wouldn’t respect it with an answer.
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@BronzeAgePater said in Ray Peat's Age Of Death:
@Logan it shouldn’t matter if he’s a Jew. If someone asked me that question I wouldn’t respect it with an answer.
It shouldn’t matter if he is a Jew, it should matter if the admin is shamelessly lying to the whole community.
I didn’t ask him whether he is a Jew, I asked him a question of linguistics. Read carefully.
Don’t confuse me with teenage right-wing trolls that this forum is infested with.
Since it shouldn’t matter if he is a Jew, by the same reasoning, a direct question about his ethnoreligious origin can and should be easily answered. It’s a simple question, requiring a simple answer. A question that I did not ask.
He can defend himself, don’t try to do it for him. Don’t make assumptions on his or my behalf.
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