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    • thyroidchor27T
      thyroidchor27
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      600 mcg of k2 is retarded . Even 10 mcg stimulates testosterone production. Minimising estrogen and hoping for the best is ideal

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      • KilgoreK
        Kilgore @thyroidchor27
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        @thyroidchor27 Not hard. Are you lighter atleast?

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          papi
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          Sounds like a solid setup. Am very interested in your proceedings. Do you plan to incorporate twice daily sprint sessions in your schedule too? Very good for HGH.

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          • thyroidchor27T
            thyroidchor27 @Kilgore
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            @Kilgore why are you ditching DHEA? DHEA only has estrogenic activity at > 10 mg. Below that it’s indirectly anti estrogenic, anti cortisol , pro androgens. Progesterone is also a great Aromatase inhibitor.

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            • KilgoreK
              Kilgore @thyroidchor27
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              @thyroidchor27 said in HEIGHTMAXXING - LOG 1:

              600 mcg of k2 is retarded . Even 10 mcg stimulates testosterone production.

              Actually I have learned that the best dose is around 5 mg/day. To maximize bone growth.
              https://x.com/fitnessfeelingz/status/1746226059853386071?s=20

              Minimising estrogen and hoping for the best is ideal

              I think so too.

              why are you ditching DHEA?

              It closes growth plates quicker (different growth plates close in different time) I think. I still haven't done enough research on the Andro/Tyromix/DHEA sides of things. I havent started with those yet so its not final.

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              • KilgoreK
                Kilgore @papi
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                @papi

                Do you plan to incorporate twice daily sprint sessions in your schedule too? Very good for HGH.

                Yeah I might have to. But I think it would be important to not over stress my legs.
                Thanks Papi...

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                  papi @Kilgore
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                  @Kilgore

                  Agreed. Check what works for you. I saw a study cross by mentioning 700% increases in HGH when doing two short sprints a day with an interval of at least an hour or something. Have you seen it. Quite low stress impact and big result if you keep stress from jumping in check. Good luck finessing the routine

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                  • KilgoreK
                    Kilgore @papi
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                    @papi Sprints can also get you jacked. Its good to include in your routine. I just dont want to over do it.

                    Have you seen it.

                    No, but i'm not surprised at the results. If you link it I'll read it. Thanks

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                    • AchilleA
                      Achille
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                      Good luck. Don't forget that the point of microfractures is to stretch them afterwards with weight or resistance bands.

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                      • KilgoreK
                        Kilgore @Achille
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                        @Achille Okay i didnt know that. What are the best methods?

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                        • AchilleA
                          Achille @Kilgore
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                          @Kilgore You can create microfractures by jumping, kicking against a punching bag or Sprinting. To know if you have enough microfractures you need to have a feeling of slight pain in the shin bone or on the side, or if the shinbone is sensitive to touch. Then within 5 minutes after you’ve created these microfracture you want to be stretching them, it can be done by using a tight resistance band attached to the ankles (make sure you're stretching the bones and not the joints and ligaments). Keep your limb stretched like this for an entire hour, so your bones will grow in length, take a 10 minute break, and stretch for another 40 minutes. You need to be doing that right before sleep so you don’t have to leave your bed and compress your bones after doing these excercises and can grow overnight for optimal results. This is important not to get up or compress your legs in any way until the next morning.

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                          • KilgoreK
                            Kilgore @Achille
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                            @Achille Insightful. Do you do these? Also how often?

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                            • Runenight201R
                              Runenight201 @Kilgore
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                              @Kilgore

                              This is a recipe for disaster. You have so many variables at play id be surprised if you stay consistent. Secondly, you are doing things that are working against you. Squats compress the spine and will make you shorter. Dead hangs and yoga promote joint/ligament laxity and will either directly hurt you or make you more injury prone. Cycling will ruin your posture, promote thoracic kyphosis, and over develop your quads relative to the rest of your body, throwing off your biomechanics.

                              If you’re looking for a style of training, functional patterns is where it’s at. Even if you don’t want to go that deep, you’re better off just walking for prolonged periods of time and doing some light calisthenics. Humans evolved standing, walking, running, and throwing. Optimal hormone production, posture, and biomechanics will come from following our evolutional footprint, not from praying to a non-existent deity.

                              Over time, with better hormone production, ideally you become more secure in yourself and get over your height insecurity.

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                                Jonny Rico @Runenight201
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                                @Runenight201 Functional Patterns Cult member alert

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                                • Runenight201R
                                  Runenight201 @Jonny Rico
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                                  @Jonny-Rico

                                  Not even bro I don’t agree with them on many points such as polyvagal theory and the role nutrition/supplements play in overall health, but they are spot on when it comes to the correct way to exercise and move.

                                  I take truth where I see it and integrate it. Failure to do this ends up in doing stupid things that end up giving you subpar or even negative results.

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                                    Jonny Rico @Runenight201
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                                    @Runenight201 I agree with your central point to Kilgore that he might be utilizing too many tools in his height quest. But I find an extremist, black or white tone when you consider things like weightlifting, cycling, or yoga. Any of these in excess may indeed be harmful, especially cycling.

                                    However, you saying that hanging or yoga will "directly hurt you" or "make you more injury prone" is fear-mongering BS. I cured a severe shoulder impingement through hanging and stretching.

                                    I'm not a massive fan of yoga but to say that stretching your hip flexors out through a low lunge will create joint laxity when most of us sit way too much is insane.

                                    If you're seeking the truth, don't do stupid things like believing any single movement will result in immediate damage. Do you think our ancestors worried about spinal compression when they needed to squat and take a shit? No, that's feeble minded thinking.

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                                    • PeatyICTP
                                      PeatyICT @Kilgore
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                                      @Kilgore Hi. Thanks for consolidating the information. At 22 you can still grow, via epiphyseal plate in spine, given you don't have any present chronic hormonal imbalances.

                                      I believe RPF had a post about how protein quality and not quantity affects growth. So you can consider adding in collagen/gelatin (20-30g/day), and Taurine.

                                      to add to the regimen, you can also consider the rustom stretches. I did it for a month and had temporary increase in morning height. I gave up because it made me uncomfortable to sleep deeply.

                                      All the best in your endeavour 🙂

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                                      • fiesterF
                                        fiester @GreekDemiGod
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                                        @GreekDemiGod said in HEIGHTMAXXING - LOG 1:

                                        Currently doing affirmations. Call me crazy, but I swear I can feel my bones “activating” and hurting when I’m affirming.
                                        And my POV feels higher.

                                        “I am taller and taller”
                                        “I am growing each day”
                                        “I am <desired-height> tall”

                                        Repeated at least 100 times per day.

                                        I am 6ft1, not bad, but wouldn’t mind being 6ft3 or 6ft4.

                                        "Grow, grow, grow"

                                        “The blueness of a wound cleanseth away evil: so do stripes the inward parts of the belly.” (Proverbs 20:30)

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                                        • KilgoreK
                                          Kilgore @Runenight201
                                          last edited by Kilgore

                                          @Runenight201 Thanks for your reply. My post for now is just drawing up ideas so I am looking for reply's like yours that have something to say/critique.

                                          You have so many variables at play id be surprised if you stay consistent.

                                          I think in general the exercises can be put into two groups: spine lengthening/straightening (yoga, neck stretches, massage foam, dead hangs) , and leg lengthening (the rest). Based on how stiff I am and the testimonies I have read I'm pretty confident I'll grow 1-2 inches from spine stretching. Although not much more is possible I'm afraid. Leg lengthening I am not even sure I believe its possible but will give it a try. I have not yet researched those ideas at all. As for consistency you don't have to worry about those things. I am pretty consistent in everything I do.

                                          Squats compress the spine and will make you shorter.

                                          Yeah I think so too, but someone else said it could help promote growth if I stretch out afterwards. I cant even do squats with weight just body weight. (I'm not fat just weak and stiff).

                                          Cycling will ruin your posture

                                          Not really especially not the little amount I will do + correcting posture with exercises.

                                          promote thoracic kyphosis, and over develop your quads relative to the rest of your body, throwing off your biomechanics.

                                          It ain't gonna overdevelop nothing.
                                          That being said I am happy to sacrifice health points for this. I haven't been sick since I was 10, 6 of my great-grand parents lived over 90 (despite living under communism), and my grandma just got out of a coma for the third time after her 3rd stroke and is now dancing. My bloodline is as tough as Stalin as my Grandpa would say who is in perfect health and spends his days fishing, walking, swimming and fucking. I am not a slight bit worried of not living at least to 90. Unless I get poisoned by commies taking revenge on my great grandpa.

                                          If you’re looking for a style of training, functional patterns is where it’s at.

                                          I have heard this being mentioned. Why is it so good? Are you practicing it? Where do you think its best to start with it? I did walk a lot during summer, about 2 hours of the day at least.

                                          praying to a non-existent deity.

                                          That's just a joke pal.

                                          Over time, with better hormone production, ideally you become more secure in yourself and get over your height insecurity.

                                          I am not insecure, just interested in pushing my body and to see what it can do. I didnt even find out this matters at all until Like 5 months ago when I started using twitter. In real life no one gives a shit. Its the 1% terminally online NEETs who try to blackpill each other about everything. Never even met women who asked my height.

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                                          • KilgoreK
                                            Kilgore @PeatyICT
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                                            @PeatyICT said in HEIGHTMAXXING - LOG 1:

                                            chronic hormonal imbalances

                                            How do I find out about that. I assume I would have to have some serious health problem? Cause I have none.

                                            So you can consider adding in collagen/gelatin (20-30g/day), and Taurine.

                                            Will keep in mind.

                                            I gave up because it made me uncomfortable to sleep deeply.

                                            You cant give up. We must push human boundaries. That's the essence of Ray Peat.
                                            Once I researched more I will add your stuff aswell.

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