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    oliveoil
    last edited by Jan 13, 2025, 7:17 PM

    Anybody knows a good source for nicotine? I’ve been wanting to try nicotine micro-dosing to increase my focus.

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      wester130 @oliveoil
      last edited by Jan 13, 2025, 8:14 PM

      @oliveoil this looks interesting

      https://troscriptions.com/products/bluecannatine

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        oliveoil @wester130
        last edited by Jan 14, 2025, 10:35 AM

        @wester130 This thread is about EU (European Union) sources, you linked a product sold in the US. Thank you nonetheless.

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          wester130 @oliveoil
          last edited by Jan 14, 2025, 2:59 PM

          @oliveoil

          sorry, I remember in the UK buying liquid nicotine drops being sold as a nootropic, however the google results have been destroyed by vaping nicotine which is not the same thing

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            bot-mod @wester130
            last edited by bot-mod Jan 15, 2025, 2:22 PM Jan 14, 2025, 8:36 PM

            @wester130 said in Help with EU Sources:

            the google results have been destroyed by vaping nicotine which is not the same thing

            You can get high concentration nicotine in a glycerol base with no additives to make "eliquid". You could repurpose and dilute it to make drops quite easily I guess.

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              wester130 @bot-mod
              last edited by wester130 Jan 15, 2025, 1:09 PM Jan 15, 2025, 1:08 PM

              @ThinPicking i found it

              www.mitolab.com

              "We used to sell nicotine solution via our website, Mitolab.com, but became aware that individuals were purchasing for uses other than intended (non-clinical/R&D research). We have a small quantity remaining but ask customers to confirm their usage before we invoice directly. We will not be restocking once this quantity is gone."

              I disagree too, the stuff used in vaping is not pure, you want it sold as a nootropic but few companies are doing it

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                bot-mod @wester130
                last edited by Jan 15, 2025, 2:15 PM

                @wester130 said in Help with EU Sources:

                the stuff used in vaping is not pure

                Of course not, attempting to vape pure nicotine would probably kill you. What I'm referring to is a base ingredient of pure pharma grade (EP in europe and probably 99.7%) glycerol (commonly used in medicine, not propylene glycol) and a very high concentration of pure nicotine. Which you could make yourself but I wouldn't go anywhere near pure nicotine personally. You could then dilute to the desired concentration with whatever base you wanted.

                you want it sold as a nootropic but few companies are doing it

                This is probably how they're making it. And their "clean room" is probably some guy wearing a lab coat and hair net in a warehouse.

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                  bot-mod @bot-mod
                  last edited by Jan 15, 2025, 2:36 PM

                  It is indeed exactly the same thing. Diluted to a concentration of 20 mg/mL.

                  https://web.archive.org/web/20201112004236/https://mitolab.com/product/nicotech-nicotine-solution-usp-30ml-100ml/

                  "USP grade nicotine, EP grade vegetable glycol (100%)" (100% is impossible, they mean close)

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                    Alomongerpete @oliveoil
                    last edited by Jan 19, 2025, 8:53 AM

                    @oliveoil https://nicotonic.uk/

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                      voldtzeig
                      last edited by Feb 10, 2025, 11:40 AM

                      Anyone got a good vitamin K supplement for eu?

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                        LucH @voldtzeig
                        last edited by LucH Feb 10, 2025, 2:15 PM Feb 10, 2025, 12:40 PM

                        @voldtzeig
                        More expensive. Mine comes from iherb.com
                        Thorne liquid Mk4.
                        Expensive if you only look at the price. I take one drop morning. Best 2x/d (half life).
                        Need a lot of fat to assimilate it. Proportional at 14 - 24 - 36 g fat.
                        2 kinds: 1 mg or 600 mcg (?) with D3.

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                          Luke @LucH
                          last edited by Feb 10, 2025, 3:00 PM

                          @LucH said in Help with EU Sources:

                          @voldtzeig
                          More expensive. Mine comes from iherb.com
                          Thorne liquid Mk4.
                          Expensive if you only look at the price. I take one drop morning. Best 2x/d (half life).
                          Need a lot of fat to assimilate it. Proportional at 14 - 24 - 36 g fat.
                          2 kinds: 1 mg or 600 mcg (?) with D3.

                          That's the only good one I have ever tried. By far the most expensive if looked at the price per bottle, but more than 1000 drops per bottle and 1mg per drop.

                          The D/K2 only has 100 mcg K2 and 500 IU Vitamin D per drop (the data on iherb is per two drops for whatever reason).

                          K2 MK7 gave me weird symptoms.

                          I've never been a big party attender, but I never went to a party where I didn't probably offend most of the people there by talking about what I was interested in. (Ray Peat)

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                            RambleCycle
                            last edited by Feb 10, 2025, 5:04 PM

                            I'm surprised there isn't already a global supplement library site for anyone to view their desired products' available sources, with user input to facilitate information compiling. Any Peatgrammer up for the task?

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                              CO3 @voldtzeig
                              last edited by Feb 14, 2025, 11:40 AM

                              @voldtzeig I'm getting Life Extension Super K on Danny's recommendation

                              Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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                                CO3
                                last edited by Feb 14, 2025, 11:41 AM

                                Also, just a heads-up for people in Spain. my Progest-E was denied at customs.

                                Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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                                  ezioauditore @edouard
                                  last edited by Feb 14, 2025, 11:44 AM

                                  @edouard I use this Dutch company, pretty old and known company and its relatively cheap: https://www.deonlinedrogist.nl/jacob-hooy-gelatinepoeder-500gr-p-22140.html?channable=00de4f696400323231343083&cross=0&pid=22140&gQT=1

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                                    Jonk
                                    last edited by Feb 14, 2025, 12:24 PM

                                    Deuspower.shop is where i purchase my T3 and T4 (to Sweden). Ships without any issues.

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                                      AL
                                      last edited by Mar 8, 2025, 1:06 AM

                                      Bought from bgpharmadrugs.com Tiromel(T3) and Bitiron(T3+T4) received, looks legit. But the qrcode and serial numbers are marked over...

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                                        alfredoolivas @AL
                                        last edited by alfredoolivas Mar 8, 2025, 4:52 PM Mar 8, 2025, 4:52 PM

                                        @AL They are fake. He marks the QR code and Serial numbers with a pen, so you can't scan them on a certain turkish medicine verification app (the name is in a foreign language), and verify if the medication is real or counterfeit.

                                        I have probbaly bought close to 30 packs of Tiromel and Bitiron combined from him, before he started to mark out the QR codes - when I scanned their QR codes ALL of them were not registered batches and were therefore fake.

                                        Save yourself hundreds of dollars and stay away from Turkish meds - generally, if you see a very popular medicine being sold for low prices, it is too good to be true.
                                        A small sample of my fake thyroid collection....
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                                          Alomongerpete @alfredoolivas
                                          last edited by Mar 9, 2025, 5:35 PM

                                          @alfredoolivas I've taken Tiromel as well and my experience is Cynomel is much cleaner.

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