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    If Ray Peat is so great, why is he dead?

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    • IsaacI
      Isaac
      last edited by

      if he was so healthy why did he die?

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      • lutteL
        lutte @Isaac
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        @Isaac You should read his work instead

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        • AppaA
          Appa
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          I know a necromancer, I think that we should revive Ray and ask him

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          • thyroidchor27T
            thyroidchor27
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            He wanted to reincarnate as Brahmin in 2000 bce so he can gain liberation and join the neutrino sea

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              Peatful
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              Ask me when you’re 86

              The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

              SD

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              • yerragY
                yerrag @Peatful
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                @Peatful

                some people only get to say oops once

                Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                • IsaacI
                  Isaac @thyroidchor27
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                  @thyroidchor27 that sounds about right

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                    dan.dominic @Isaac
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                    This post is deleted!
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                    • CO3C
                      CO3
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                      @brad random question: does saying 'kill yourself' count as a threat of violence?

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                      • Norwegian MugabeN
                        Norwegian Mugabe @CO3
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                        @CO3 Yes, you are going out of the forum brother.

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                        Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                        Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                        • BarghestB
                          Barghest @CO3
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                          @CO3 if you're referring to peatyourmeat's comment he was already banned but he also threatened to kill someone else so

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                          • CO3C
                            CO3 @Barghest
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                            @Barghest I'm referring to my own potential future reply to OP

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                            • BarghestB
                              Barghest @CO3
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                              @CO3 lol okay

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                              • BioEclecticB
                                BioEclectic @Isaac
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                                @Isaac
                                Ray was reasonably unhealthy in his younger years, somewhat restored it slowly, then later experimented a bit too much on himself. Yet he was still able to live to a ripe old age of 86 with full mental faculties to the end, despite it all

                                The man was never 100%, in certain ways yes he had regenerated, in others he was simply keeping himself patched up. He learned the hard way, which actually sounds familiar.

                                With our current environment the rest of us will be very very lucky to live to his age along with having our mental faculties intact and a modicum of physical health.

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                                  Jaffe
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                                  OP thinks we should all live to 120yo.

                                  I have the perfect forum recommendation for you.

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                                  • bradB
                                    brad @CO3
                                    last edited by

                                    @CO3 yeah, can't encourage violence, even if it's self-harm

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                                    • CO3C
                                      CO3 @brad
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                                      @brad
                                      😅

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                                      • ?
                                        A Former User @Isaac
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                                        @Isaac Because nobody gets out alive.

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                                        • CreusetC
                                          Creuset @Isaac
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                                          @Isaac Because he was a pioneer, and never claimed to be 100% right about everything or to hold definitive answers and truths in biology. He still lived older than average, in good health, while having suffered heavy health issues when he was younger which is a good indicator that he was in the right direction for a lot of things. It's now our responsability to take his work one step further.

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                                            Evolutionarily
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                                            Although you asked it in a rather uncouth manner, it is an interesting question. Certainly I think most people in the bioenergetic space regarded it as a shock and expected him to live longer than 86. Also I could be wrong here, but I do think Peat himself did discuss the death of other people and the causes involved, so I hope it's not disrespectful to discuss Peat's.

                                            A few things that I think about are:
                                            -- Lifespan versus healthspan. Peat obviously aged WAY better than average, how many 85 year olds are having such complex discussions, not many, but also not zero. It seems plausible to me that in the 85 to 100+ age range, genetics may play the largest role so it's just luck of the draw, but up to 85 one mostly has control control of their destiny by influencing healthspan.

                                            -- As mentioned here already, Peat had many health challenges throughout life; and was missing many teeth. Certainly plausible all these factors contributed to his death.

                                            -- Exercise; this is currently above my knowledge level of Peat's ideas and lifestyle contrasted to the mainstream view on exercise, but my understanding is he was not doing a lot of physical activity / exercise in the later period of his life. Please correct me if I am wrong on this. For me personally, I feel best when combining a bionergetic diet with plenty of non hyper stressful physical activity, hiking, sports with friends like tennis & beach volleyball, bodyweight workouts and sprints on the grass or sand barefoot, swimming, etc.

                                            -- The bioenergetic philosophy is not a static thing set in place by Peat. With its rise in popularity currently, and so many eyeballs and people experimenting with the ideas, surely in the future (or even already) we will advance our knowledge to new areas Peat was not aware of or tried himself, and that may allow us to push healthspans further than he was able to.

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