If Ray Peat is so great, why is he dead?

[lutte]

@Isaac You should read his work instead

[Appa]

I know a necromancer, I think that we should revive Ray and ask him

[thyroidchor27]

He wanted to reincarnate as Brahmin in 2000 bce so he can gain liberation and join the neutrino sea

[Peatful]

Ask me when you’re 86

[yerrag]

@Peatful

some people only get to say oops once

[Isaac]

@thyroidchor27 that sounds about right

[dan.dominic]

This post is deleted!

[CO3]

@brad random question: does saying 'kill yourself' count as a threat of violence?

[Norwegian Mugabe]

@CO3 Yes, you are going out of the forum brother.

[Barghest]

@CO3 if you're referring to peatyourmeat's comment he was already banned but he also threatened to kill someone else so

[CO3]

@Barghest I'm referring to my own potential future reply to OP

[Barghest]

@CO3 lol okay

[BioEclectic]

@Isaac
Ray was reasonably unhealthy in his younger years, somewhat restored it slowly, then later experimented a bit too much on himself. Yet he was still able to live to a ripe old age of 86 with full mental faculties to the end, despite it all

The man was never 100%, in certain ways yes he had regenerated, in others he was simply keeping himself patched up. He learned the hard way, which actually sounds familiar.

With our current environment the rest of us will be very very lucky to live to his age along with having our mental faculties intact and a modicum of physical health.

[Jaffe]

OP thinks we should all live to 120yo.

I have the perfect forum recommendation for you.

[brad]

@CO3 yeah, can't encourage violence, even if it's self-harm

[CO3]

@brad

[A Former User]

@Isaac Because nobody gets out alive.

[Creuset]

@Isaac Because he was a pioneer, and never claimed to be 100% right about everything or to hold definitive answers and truths in biology. He still lived older than average, in good health, while having suffered heavy health issues when he was younger which is a good indicator that he was in the right direction for a lot of things. It's now our responsability to take his work one step further.

[Evolutionarily]

Although you asked it in a rather uncouth manner, it is an interesting question. Certainly I think most people in the bioenergetic space regarded it as a shock and expected him to live longer than 86. Also I could be wrong here, but I do think Peat himself did discuss the death of other people and the causes involved, so I hope it's not disrespectful to discuss Peat's.

A few things that I think about are:
-- Lifespan versus healthspan. Peat obviously aged WAY better than average, how many 85 year olds are having such complex discussions, not many, but also not zero. It seems plausible to me that in the 85 to 100+ age range, genetics may play the largest role so it's just luck of the draw, but up to 85 one mostly has control control of their destiny by influencing healthspan.

-- As mentioned here already, Peat had many health challenges throughout life; and was missing many teeth. Certainly plausible all these factors contributed to his death.

-- Exercise; this is currently above my knowledge level of Peat's ideas and lifestyle contrasted to the mainstream view on exercise, but my understanding is he was not doing a lot of physical activity / exercise in the later period of his life. Please correct me if I am wrong on this. For me personally, I feel best when combining a bionergetic diet with plenty of non hyper stressful physical activity, hiking, sports with friends like tennis & beach volleyball, bodyweight workouts and sprints on the grass or sand barefoot, swimming, etc.

-- The bioenergetic philosophy is not a static thing set in place by Peat. With its rise in popularity currently, and so many eyeballs and people experimenting with the ideas, surely in the future (or even already) we will advance our knowledge to new areas Peat was not aware of or tried himself, and that may allow us to push healthspans further than he was able to.

[beastliboi]

Because he's not so great, he's quite the charlatan. In human studies PUFAs are typically helpful or neutral, yet his claim that they're toxic is probably what he hammers on the most throughout his work. The fact that he died of a stroke makes sense given that he preferred saturated fat, so much so that he would even use hydrogenated fats to avoid the little amount of PUFAs in coconut oil.

@Evolutionarily said in If Ray Peat is so great, why is he dead?:

It seems plausible to me that in the 85 to 100+ age range, genetics may play the largest role

Not only does this directly contradict Ray Peat's own claims but it is also wrong. Read de Magalhães or whoever.