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80/20 rule which aspect brought most returns

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    the MOUSE Banned
    last edited by Apr 12, 2024, 12:30 PM

    which aspect from rp diet brought most returns for you? mine was reducing endotoxin, sibo; supplemening thaimine.

    what other 20% of raypeat you thnink would get 80% of results? very simple actions to give to an uninitiated layman

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      BioEclectic
      last edited by BioEclectic Apr 12, 2024, 1:33 PM Apr 12, 2024, 1:24 PM

      PUFA abstention / depletion, this along with the B's and cycling different magnesiums did it for me.

      Other 80/20's imho:

      Reintroduction of saturated fats for those who had abstained.

      Sources of proper protein with good amino acid ratios.

      Nutrient dense foods.

      Proper food prep, especially starches.

      Proper testing to see what needs to be corrected.

      Avoiding and or mitigating toxins.

      Am tempted to say aspirin but the many results are often silent and over the long haul.

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        DavidPS @BioEclectic
        last edited by Apr 12, 2024, 1:33 PM

        @BioEclectic - I agree with aspirin being important. My position is that if it costing pension systems $, then it has got to be healthy of induvials. It is good to learn that aspirin, which is currently cheap and readily available, is at the top of their list.

        Aspirin seen costing pensions $100 billion as lifespans increase

        “Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left.”
        Aldous Huxley 👀
        ☂️

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          BioEclectic @DavidPS
          last edited by BioEclectic Apr 13, 2024, 2:46 PM Apr 12, 2024, 1:43 PM

          @DavidPS said in 80/20 rule which aspect brought most returns:

          @BioEclectic - I agree with aspirin being important. My position is that if it costing pension systems $, then it has got to be healthy of induvials. It is good to learn that aspirin, which is currently cheap and readily available, is at the top of their list.

          Aspirin seen costing pensions $100 billion as lifespans increase

          Agreed that it's one that brings most of the benefits, but it was hard for me personally to pin down where it helped initially (in spirit of the thread). But now that it's been years i can pin down certain inflammations.

          I recall that link and have shared it, i believe you had posted it elsewhere. Very worthy of reposting for newer members to see.

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            DavidPS @BioEclectic
            last edited by DavidPS Apr 12, 2024, 1:54 PM Apr 12, 2024, 1:52 PM

            @BioEclectic said in 80/20 rule which aspect brought most returns:

            Aspirin seen costing pensions $100 billion as lifespans increase

            Yes, I posted it on a different forum. Here is a better link. Aspirin to fuel $100 bln pension costs

            See also Ray Peat Email Exchanges - Aspirin

            “Medical science has made such tremendous progress that there is hardly a healthy human left.”
            Aldous Huxley 👀
            ☂️

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              thyroidchor27
              last edited by Apr 12, 2024, 8:30 PM

              Magnesium progesterone t3 amantadine ( for emf protection and cell water structuring) Tianeptine ( on days I want to enjoy a movie more) upping fruit and dairy intake reducing starch ( but not to 0)

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                A Former User
                last edited by Apr 12, 2024, 9:01 PM

                Grass fed organs from a really good farm

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                  Kvirion @the MOUSE
                  last edited by Apr 12, 2024, 9:19 PM

                  @the-MOUSE
                  Before peating, I was on keto and IF - therefore for me getting back to the proper ratio of fats/protein/carbohydrates was a key move. Next was getting proper nutrients, avoiding fasting, and Aspirin.
                  Recently I introduced emodin - it is making new wonders for me!

                  A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                  Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                  There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                  And drinking largely sobers us again.
                  ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                    T-3 @Kvirion
                    last edited by Apr 13, 2024, 10:44 AM

                    Nutrient-dense food

                    Child-like curiosity about food and other sensory inputs (asking Ray's empirical question 'Are these effects helpful in my present context?') rather than applying a drill-sergeant mindset or 'self-medicalization of food' mindset, where, in the past I prescribed or forced dietary constraints on myself without being sufficiently curious or sensitive to the informationally-rich feedback that the experience of food generated

                    Ditching willpower (aside from avoiding seed-oil-containing food that may sometimes appear appetizing): not only 'salting to taste' but also 'eating to taste' (i.e. intuitive dieting and experimenting playfully with 'approaching satiation points' rather than having ad hoc 'stopping rules' or portions); this made me love food and removed all stress from my relationship with it

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                      CO3 @the MOUSE
                      last edited by Apr 13, 2024, 1:23 PM

                      @the-MOUSE

                      carrot
                      drinking fruit juice instead of water

                      Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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                        Chud
                        last edited by Apr 14, 2024, 2:39 AM

                        stuff i cant live without after discovering peating:
                        foods: carrot, grass fed ground beef, milk, oj/oj concentrate
                        supplements: redbull, t3, dnp, cypro

                        breakfast for dinner enjoyer

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                          DonkeyDude
                          last edited by Apr 14, 2024, 2:28 PM

                          • skim milk as both a primary liquid and calorie source

                          • not eating vegetable oils, including not eating out/at restaurants

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                            onliest @Chud
                            last edited by Apr 14, 2024, 4:29 PM

                            @Chud how often do you run DNP. I'm interested in it but seems pretty hardcore

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                              Chud @onliest
                              last edited by Apr 14, 2024, 8:44 PM

                              @onliest
                              every few months, i bulk until i feel im fat then run DNP for 2-3 weeks and lose 10-15 lbs. im natural so its a real game changer. i used to want to roid, but it turns out DNP is all i need, apparently it also has life extending benefits at lower doses, i think @haidut (?) posted about some rat study on RPF.

                              Being on 200mgs of DNP feels like having the perfect thyroid dose all the time, my brain is hot, my body is hot, mood is great...all despite the fact that im wasting energy b/c of the DNP mechanism. Only when you push super high doses daily do you risk overheating and lethargy.

                              breakfast for dinner enjoyer

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                                onliest @Chud
                                last edited by Apr 16, 2024, 7:53 PM

                                @Chud do you have a good source? I know they sell it on purple panda labs

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