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      zawisza @Njegos
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      @Njegos You can buy vit supps: B1, 3, 6, D, E, K and Magnesium, Calcium, Aspirin. Even no name brands of these supps won't kill you.

      They might cost a bit and have toxins or fillers (this site might be useful: https://www.toxinless.com) so experiment a little and don't jump on megadoses straight away.

      But if you're healthy then there's no need for supps. Just keep drink coffee and milk. The ultimate goal of peating is to eat "normally".

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        Jakeandpace @Njegos
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        @Njegos

        Coconut oil isn't too expensive where I live. What about butter? Liver is dirt cheap where I live and so are potatoes.

        You sound young based on your circumstances. I'd say to try and not worry about peating for now until you can change your living situation. Sometimes living your life is the healthiest thing you can do. I also assume you don't have a job as you've got no bank account so I'd say that's a place to start as well.

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          Njegos @Jakeandpace
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          @Jakeandpace Potatoes are cheap here as well, but coconut oil is roughly as much as extra virgin olive oil here, so it isn’t crazy expensive but it is enough expensive for me to ration it.

          I’m young but I feel worried sometimes

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            Njegos @zawisza
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            @zawisza Thanks, I will look through that site. I guess keeping it simple is often the best thing to do

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            • Norwegian MugabeN
              Norwegian Mugabe @Njegos
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              @Njegos You need to make money. The world is becoming ever more capitalistic and uncertain.

              I would avoid using the money you have got on supplements. Live on eggs, fruits, milk, liver, and sugar.

              Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

              Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                edouard
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                Use this "need" of eating better/trying supplements to try to make money

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                • Norwegian MugabeN
                  Norwegian Mugabe
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                  Supplements are not needed for most people.

                  Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                  Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                  • DavidPSD
                    DavidPS
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                    I agree. Always prioritize food over supplements

                    ““Effective health care depends on self-care” - Ivan Illich, 👀
                    ☂️

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                      Njegos @Norwegian Mugabe
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                      @Norwegian-Mugabe Can’t make money as a student and when I can make money over the summer I can’t spend them because my parents don’t work in summer so it pays the bills.

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                        Njegos @Norwegian Mugabe
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                        @Norwegian-Mugabe Of course food is very important but I eat like shit most of the time because I live with my parents and they get really mad if don’t eat stuff they make. Yes I’m 19 arguing with my parents about food but whatever

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                          VehmicJuryman @Njegos
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                          @Njegos said in Peating in poverty:

                          @Norwegian-Mugabe Of course food is very important but I eat like shit most of the time because I live with my parents and they get really mad if don’t eat stuff they make. Yes I’m 19 arguing with my parents about food but whatever

                          What do they make? Tell them you can't eat food fried in vegetable oil.

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                            Norwegian Mugabe @Njegos
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                            @Njegos Try to explain the damage of seed oils to them and try to get them to buy butter. In your situation it would be good to join your partents to the store and make dinner for the family. This would improve everyones health and it would be a good way to bond with your family.

                            Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                            Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                            • BioEclecticB
                              BioEclectic
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                              Are your parents making soups and stews of any sort? If yes then that's a good start, potatoes, carrots or whatever, well boiled is key. Occasionally ask them to include a few chicken, lamb or beef bones while cooking it, it may not be enough to make jelly but will provide the correct amino acids. Tripe, stomach lining, is another addition that has much Glycine.

                              Cheese, milk, thicker yogurt strained of it's liquid.

                              Is aspirin inexpensive? 1/2 a pill a day is probably more than enough at your age and would offer some PUFA and wheat gluten protection and many other benefits.

                              If you must eat PUFA fried foods then simply pat it dry with a napkin.

                              Yes to butter, ration the coconut oil, liver is powerful, having some orange is good after eating the other organs like kidneys etc as to reduce iron absorption.

                              Asking your parents about what their parents or grandparents used to eat can make for good conversation and give them new cooking ideas.

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                                Njegos @VehmicJuryman
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                                @VehmicJuryman I think telling you that they think you can’t eat rice, plain pasta or peas without first putting (sunflower) seed oil in it is enough. They put it in everything and all we eat is basically legumes, chicken, seed oils and cheese which is probably the only thing keeping them alive. It is ridiculous

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                                  Njegos @Norwegian Mugabe
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                                  @Norwegian-Mugabe The main reason the use sunflower seed oil, besides being used to it, is that is ridiculous much cheaper. Liter of it maximum 1.5€ and 250g of butter is 4€ at least. It boils down to what is cheaper. I mean, that’s why I’m asking about peating for the poor

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                                    BroImGay @Njegos
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                                    @Njegos you can substitute coconut oil for butter

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                                      Njegos @BioEclectic
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                                      @BioEclectic I was thinking about taking aspirin but wasn’t sure because I know many advise to take vitamin K supplements with it. Would 1/2 pill be a safe dosage without any supplementation?

                                      They do sometimes make soups and stews but the main ingredient is always some legumes, good old potatoes and then minimal amount of some meat, if it’s not chicken then beef. I was thinking about introducing bones but I have never seen a bone in our kitchen, I don’t how would they react. Liver is definitely something I’ll suggest tho

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                                        Njegos @BroImGay
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                                        @BroImGay I try to ration coconut oil because it’s more expensive than butter

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                                          happyhanneke
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                                          I come from a country where the national dishes all basically came to be because people were dirt poor and could not afford any meat.
                                          Mostly potatoes, carrots, onions and dairy if possible. And eggs. People are one the tallest in the world and in general pretty healthy. Not that much anymore but they used to be when they were on this diet.
                                          Plus don't stress over it, that's the worst. Be happy and content.

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                                            CO3
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                                            I have quite a lot of experience with this. but it was western Europe level of poverty, not serbian. i could always look at my peers ordering food 2-3 times a week and feel quite comfortable in my food costs.

                                            The main advice is: shoplift. This is a parody btw. Totally not my genuine advice that I apply on a daily basis.

                                            Then it's also important to get very acquainted with the options you have. Much of my advice simply won't apply to the Serbian market.

                                            I go to several supermarkets (without a car) to assure both highest quality and lowest cost. The next is quantity!! Get large amounts of things, it is always cheaper. Sometimes online options are good in this case too, especially if they suspend shipping costs over a certain amount.

                                            A few examples:

                                            After years I found out a certain brand of grape juice was a lot cheaper (and sweeter) than OJ, and have only been consuming that since.

                                            Zucchini are a great fruit option to make in large batches.

                                            Dates are great. cheap, they don't go bad fast. The tunisian deglet nours and iranian mazafati dateshave a great cost-digestibility balance

                                            Skim milk powder pancakes give me a filling breakfast everyday and are fairly cheap.

                                            Master broth for protein. check out my signature. recently i've been shoplifting calf feet because the butcher near me is inside a supermarket and i just pretend it's a bag from a different store when i go by the cash register with all my other groceries that i do pay for but it's still not expensive even when you pay for it. This entire last sentence was a total parody and not true. never happened.

                                            Just be flexible, learn a lot, and try to make choices that result in the best possible option. This seems super obvious but it's good to remind yourself you can still find out a lot.

                                            Master Broth Recipe: https://twitter.com/thesquattingman/status/1737526599023526043 / https://recipeats.org/master-broth/

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