Peating in poverty
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@Norwegian-Mugabe you’re Norwegian, right? Hasn’t Norway had a universal basic income for several generations now? Do you think that could skew your perception of how hard it can be to overcome the psychological obstacles adjacent to poverty?
I have family from the “great generation” who worked harder than anyone I know, would never take a handout, and some climbed ladders out of the hard labor industries into prestigious office and institution, some worked hard their whole life participating in construction of iconic parts of America, but died in relative poverty only because they only understood hard work, and not the principles of management and multiplication. All good church going family people.
I understand choice and consequence, but I think charitably to the psychological state of people in a cycle of poverty, to be good and beneficial to the bearer and recipient.
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@noodlecat59 said in Peating in poverty:
@LetTheRedeemed the amish and mennonites and farmers would probably feed someone who asked. try asking the store manager of the corporate grocery store to front you a sandwich until you get paid the next day and let me know how it goes.
I actually suggested in my first comment that he reach out to small businesses/farms for help/food. I don’t disagree that a corporate store probably won’t help (even at that, the dominos I used to work for wasn’t beyond giving extra pizza when we had it, if the hard luck story was convincing).
im an ardent hyper-capitalist
Ah maybe there’s your error
and even i know know stealing food is morally ok in corporate society. i presume we are talking about getting food from aldi's here and not the local amish. if the local council bans backyard chickens or would prosecute you for having a milking cow, then stealing from the grocery store is even more acceptable.
I didn’t address it when ThinPicking corrected me on the capitalism/corporatism distinction, but I will here.
After years of my defending the Austrian economic arguments for capitalism, and likewise distinguishing corporatism from a capitalist society with rules for fair play in business, I found a few errors.
The etymological definition of capitalism, is merely the supremacy of capital accumulation; it is not "may the most efficient and wisest outcome of resource allocation win". In fact, it was used as an insult by reactionary conservatives in the 1800s for that very reason.
“Corporatism” is intended to demarcate “fair” capitalism from “rule breaking” capitalism.
Fundamentally, they both undermine social orders for the virtues of arbitrage, so both end up ordaining wealth accumulation above other values - corporatism is just the capitalist formalizing the power he stole from traditional or indigenous hierarchical structures.
Theft is more efficient than honesty. One hundred years of Capitalism convincing us that our selfish ambition is a more valuable social structure than other virtues (sanctity, family, duty, etc) tells Nietzsche's “last man” that he should probably steal that cheap item because the punishment is low and the purported victim indifferent and unaffected.
Again, the actual victims of petty theft is as much the social fabric of society, as the business owner with insurance and who perpetually increases prices (ultimately making a third victim - the noble poor).
Sorry OP for participating in turning your post into a twatter fever dream lol
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Sources and history to one side for a muse.
That a corporation is a legal person (payout in litigation) with limited liability (payout in backruptcy) is bound to create some (very interesting) behavioural distortions with compounding effects. An illicit house party if you will. Love em.
Pulling the rug on that would be a complete disaster. But a little over a certain revenue. Seems sane. Maybe worth a chat. What would I know. Armchair economics.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in Peating in poverty:
Another thing a poor person can do is to have a higher-fat diet
You're such an irredeemably stupid faggot.
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Peating in poverty:
@CO3
I’ll recommence this conversation in person. I’m in DFW, Texas. Let me know when you’re here.The war cry - cluck, rather - of a true coward. "come at me irl bro"
how about you come at me ONLINE
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@CO3, A bit of power outage, firewood chopping, and a coming of age across-the-nation road trip with an old school widower who’s crusty around the edges and has a begrudging soft spot for rambunctious inner city youth, would do you good
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If you're going to shoplift I think you should at least do it with a sense of confidence and/or disregard for society and individuals, trying to justify all your actions from a moral lens just makes you seem insecure (not accusing anyone in particular of that). You're already committing a legal crime, just own up to it. "N-no, I am ENTITLED to this thing, you see! Society owes me this!" not a dignified way of standing up for yourself.
On a different note I used to think petty thievery was the "good" type of theft, because who cares about a bag of doritos? But after dwelling on it a bit I realized it was the more daring and intelligence-gated acts of theft that merit some admiration, and display a certain exertion of will over the world. Petty thievery just makes you seem, well, petty. Like a homeless loser who doesn't have anything better to do than to pilfer sloppily.
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@Tahodama said in Peating in poverty:
f you're going to shoplift I think you should at least do it with a sense of confidence and/or disregard for society and individuals, trying to justify all your actions from a moral lens just makes you seem insecure (not accusing anyone in particular of that). You're already committing a legal crime, just own up to it. "N-no, I am ENTITLED to this thing, you see! Society owes me this!" not a dignified way of standing up for yourself.
See the thing is I neither do it out of a deep moral conviction nor a disregard for society. I just think "ohh that would be fun if I didn't have to pay for that, and the corporation that sells it can go fuck themselves".
It's cool because I can judge how well my metabolism is doing by how ready I am to shoplift. I will not dare to when I'm in a bad state but when I'm doing good the thought enters my mind and it's like I have to do it.
Both paragraphs above are part of a novel I wrote called "God, Masculinity, and Why Target is a Great American Institution: My Dark Journey Into the Evil World of Shoplifting"
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@Tahodama Have you discovered the perfect crossover of Nietzsche's final man and ubermensch???
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@LetTheRedeemed said in Peating in poverty:
A bit of power outage, firewood chopping, and a coming of age across-the-nation road trip with an old school widower who’s crusty around the edges and has a begrudging soft spot for rambunctious inner city youth, would do you good
Hey Jannie @NotShanalotte any rules against advances from creepy old gay guys? because there should be
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@CO3 a movie trope as old as time -- double check your humors
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Boys. This is not far off Gatz/Redsun tier scrappin.
Some here will know the community meme.
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@ThinPicking I call Gatz!
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@CO3 Nope. Rules are no threats of violence, no spam. To be clear, the moderation rules I follow are from the head admin so I'm only the messenger. If you can't handle the banter, the "Block user" function works just fine.
Now that I've clarified the rules, if you have a serious concern, use the Report function in the future.
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@CO3 It does not look like you will get to experience any communism in Germany in your lifetime. Half of the young voters in Germany are already voting for AFD
. Your disgusting bitch wife will be deported back to a shithole where there is nothing to redistribute. She will need to read this thread to learn about peating in poverty 
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in Peating in poverty:
Your disgusting bitch wife
I can't even imagine to what degree I would have to get owned to start calling someone's wife I don't know a disgusting bitch.
It's inconceivable to me I would ever do such a thing. Then again I've just been ruining you in almost every thread you go to so I was wondering how that level of humiliation would eventually present itself.
Anyway I'm pretty happy with your post as it's a perfect example of why you're wrong and how hard it is to continue down such a physically and mentally sick path.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe said in Peating in poverty:
Your ********** ***** wife
Please, don't do that kind of thing again.
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As a fellow poor peater (pea-oorter? poor-eater? peatoor? peatsantry? peatverty?) My friend (also poor, but health conscious in a gym bro way) was criticizing me for buying various Peat items and kept insisting I eat beans and lentils. Much back-and-forth has transpired, but I did think it was worth mentioning rice and oats. From what I remember, those two starches are... not the worst... as long as one keeps their gut biome in check (I also got hearsay that Peat said oats were fairly benign if consumed with milk). Could do some discourse on that. He also claimed cottage cheese was the cheapest of all dairies (beside milk), though that likely varies heavily by location. Might wanna evaluate which sources of dairy are cheapest (if you think you need the saturated fat/its nutrients...)
On that note, remember you can recycle used eggshells for calcium. Did this myself with a mortar and pestle. I haven't seen any negative effects from it yet... and it does seem to work as intended. Brad Cohn's got a simple guide - boil for 5 minutes, bake for 20 minutes, powderize. Get it as fine as you can else it increases digestion risks. -
@Tahodama Good advice. The combo of cheap dairy that has a bad calcium:phosphorus ratio, like cottage cheese, with eggshell calcium as a supplement is a good basis for a (non-liquid, salty) diet that could be stress-suppressive. I imagine you could even find good, cheap and even homemade cottage cheese in Serbia, but I could be mistaken.