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    • yerragY
      yerrag @LucH
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      @LucH

      Glad you noticed weight gain when megadosing B3. Thst makes the two of us. @mostlylurking have you noticed as well?

      Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
      engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
      wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
      the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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        A Former User @yerrag
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        @yerrag said in Fat Loss, Metabolism and Lipolysis:

        @LucH

        Glad you noticed weight gain when megadosing B3. Thst makes the two of us. @mostlylurking have you noticed as well?

        Well, I don't think I've ever high dosed B3. I take 100mgs of niacinamide, 4Xday which equals to 400mgs/day. That's not high dosing is it?

        I suspect that my own weight gain is from learning how to make fabulous apple pie combined with sitting on my fat behind in front of this computer too much.

        I'd like to add that I did lose 35 pounds in around 4 months simply by changing how I take my niacinamide. I used to take 200mgs twice a day which equaled 400mgs/day. Then I changed to taking 100mgs of it 4 times a day and the weight came off. I guess something just started working better from taking it more frequently. This weight loss happened prior to perfecting my pastry....

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          yerrag @A Former User
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          @mostlylurking

          Well, you didn't go overboard with the B3. I did.

          I was taking 2 x500 mg for 1- 2 months. But I was taking 2k mg of B1 30mg of niacin, 120mg of B2, and 60mg of B6 for a month.

          I noticed my belly grow, and I put on around 10 lbs, mostly with astrocytes. I thought it was the B2.

          Then my cat bit me by the ankle bone, and since then I have been mostly bedridden because I couldn't walk with the pain that accompanied the slow healing of a wound that because of the thin dermal layer near bones (often associated with bed sores) that are slow to heal. I'm on week 6 and likely it would be 7 before all the wound heals. In you ask,
          I'm not diabetic.

          But throughout a month of this ordeal, I was eating my usual regular carb meals 3x a day (though it would also be called lo carb by less knowledgeable folks) but I would lose weight instead of gain despite the lack of movement that constitutes external metabolism.

          I lost back all the weight and girth I had gained. And it was because I had backed off my 1000mg daily supplementation of niacinamide.

          Ever since the RPF days, I had wondered about the sanity of using niacinamide to avoid lipolysis in order to lose weight or to improve sugar metabolism and to increase metabolism, but I never voiced it out.

          No one ever did as well. Now, I think a case can start to be built up against too much B3 supplementation if the goal is to lose weight as one improves his sugar metabolism.

          Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
          engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
          wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
          the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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            A Former User @yerrag
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            @yerrag said in Fat Loss, Metabolism and Lipolysis:

            @mostlylurking

            Well, you didn't go overboard with the B3. I did.

            Ah hah!!

            I was taking 2 x500 mg for 1- 2 months. But I was taking 2k mg of B1 30mg of niacin, 120mg of B2, and 60mg of B6 for a month.

            I noticed my belly grow, and I put on around 10 lbs, mostly with astrocytes. I thought it was the B2.

            Can I blame my belly on the B2? I take around 400mgs/day same as my niacinamide.

            Then my cat bit me by the ankle bone, and since then I have been mostly bedridden because I couldn't walk with the pain that accompanied the slow healing of a wound that because of the thin dermal layer near bones (often associated with bed sores) that are slow to heal. I'm on week 6 and likely it would be 7 before all the wound heals. In you ask,
            I'm not diabetic.

            Have you ever tried using chlorine dioxide? It might help you heal faster. Here's a video. Here's a how to video.

            But throughout a month of this ordeal, I was eating my usual regular carb meals 3x a day (though it would also be called lo carb by less knowledgeable folks) but I would lose weight instead of gain despite the lack of movement that constitutes external metabolism.

            I lost back all the weight and girth I had gained. And it was because I had backed off my 1000mg daily supplementation of niacinamide.

            Interesting concept.... You might be onto something....

            Ever since the RPF days, I had wondered about the sanity of using niacinamide to avoid lipolysis in order to lose weight or to improve sugar metabolism and to increase metabolism, but I never voiced it out.

            No one ever did as well. Now, I think a case can start to be built up against too much B3 supplementation if the goal is to lose weight as one improves his sugar metabolism.

            You just might be right!

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            • yerragY
              yerrag @A Former User
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              @mostlylurking

              Serendipity helps a lot!

              Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
              engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
              wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
              the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                GlucoseGal @LucH
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                @LucH this is awesome!

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                • yerragY
                  yerrag @A Former User
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                  @mostlylurking said in Fat Loss, Metabolism and Lipolysis:

                  Have you ever tried using chlorine dioxide? It might help you heal faster. Here's a video. Here's a how to video.

                  It likely will work. I used a 1% mixture of Clorox in an isotonic salt solution aka Dakin's solution, made by Dr. Dakin about 100 yrs. ago. The surgeon doctor I consulted recommended it.

                  Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                  engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                  wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                  the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                    A Former User @yerrag
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                    @yerrag said in Fat Loss, Metabolism and Lipolysis:

                    @mostlylurking said in Fat Loss, Metabolism and Lipolysis:

                    Have you ever tried using chlorine dioxide? It might help you heal faster. Here's a video. Here's a how to video.

                    It likely will work. I used a 1% mixture of Clorox in an isotonic salt solution aka Dakin's solution, made by Dr. Dakin about 100 yrs. ago. The surgeon doctor I consulted recommended it.

                    It's not the same thing. Watch the two videos I posted earlier. The second one is how to make it.

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                    • yerragY
                      yerrag @A Former User
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                      @mostlylurking I know it's not the same thing.

                      I've made chlorine dioxide countless times already. But Dakin's works, and it's a done deal. Next time, chlorine dioxide it shall be.

                      Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                      engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                      wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                      the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                        A Former User @yerrag
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                        @yerrag said in Fat Loss, Metabolism and Lipolysis:

                        @mostlylurking I know it's not the same thing.

                        I've made chlorine dioxide countless times already. But Dakin's works, and it's a done deal. Next time, chlorine dioxide it shall be.

                        Okey dokey. the second video shows how to make a consistent concentrated product that you dilute just before use. I've used it for several years. I keep the concentrated mix in the refrigerator for months and work out of it.

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