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    Pregnenolone vs Pansterone

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    • onliestO
      onliest @PrinceTrebata
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      @PrinceTrebata Pansterone + Androsterone is a potent androgenic combo. Only at high doses will the DHEA present in Pansterone convert to estrogen. I personally limit to about 3-4 drops before bed. There is more info on the old forum about this combo and DHEA in general.

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      • PrinceTrebataP
        PrinceTrebata @onliest
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        @onliest Would the added Dhea be helpful as I am still pretty young? Would normal pregnenolone + Androsterone give similar results, if not slightly better?

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        • onliestO
          onliest @PrinceTrebata
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          @PrinceTrebata Unsure. I've tried 50-100mg preg alone but not with andro. Would be a cool experiment.

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          • parkeP
            parke @onliest
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            @onliest How do you administer the Pansterone? I’ve read that it’s better absorbed when applied topically so I’m curious if you do that and if so what part of the body would you do that on?

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            • PrinceTrebataP
              PrinceTrebata @parke
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              @parke I don't have experience but many people on the RPF found good results applying it to the scrotal and wrists. However, Ray Peat I believe said he dosen't recommend scrotal application for substances but Pansterone might be ok.

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              • onliestO
                onliest @parke
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                @parke Primarily PO with good results. I've tried scrotal but it gave me a rash.

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                  wester130 @PrinceTrebata
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                  @PrinceTrebata

                  depends

                  pansterone in vitamin E?

                  pregnenolone powder? in alcohol solution?

                  I think it would produce different results?

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                  • PrinceTrebataP
                    PrinceTrebata @wester130
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                    @wester130 Both from idealabs, so I think the pregnenlone is in ethanol and pansterone in vitamin e. I've read that transdermal pregnenlone is very androgenic.

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                      wester130 @PrinceTrebata
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                      @PrinceTrebata pregnenolone in alcohol - I am not sure if it matters.

                      Pansterone in Vitamin E is superior to Pansterone in Ethanol

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                      • jamezb46J
                        jamezb46 @RageAchilles
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                        @RageAchilles

                        I don't think that the added DHEA would "do nothing" just because you're young. By that logic why wouldn't the pregnenalone also do nothing if you're not deficient?

                        Haidut's recommendation is not to exceed 15mg DHEA per day in 3 divided doses, and to take steroids with niacinamide to increase NAD+/NADH.

                        He has also posted that 2-3 mg of androsterone limited aromatase activity by 90%.

                        So, taking something in the range of 10-15mg pansterone + 1-2 mg androsterone per day as a male should be ideal if you want the maximum effect.

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