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    Reversal of hair loss in Mice with “sugar gel”

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    • GastonG
      Gaston @LetTheRedeemed
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      @LetTheRedeemed

      Personally, I wouldn't recommend applying urea to your scalp. My hair is/was at its worst state ever, and this was the culmination of applying urea to my scalp for over a year (among many other factors.) It's my understanding that urea denatures collagen. My hair is improving since I ditched urea and started applying vitamin C to my scalp, which is an action that I took in an attempt to reverse the perceived damage done to my face/scalp skin wrought by urea. Vitamin C is, of course, considered supportive of collagen formation; as are red light and needling, which are common hair loss treatments.

      In keeping with the topic of the thread, I am also currently applying dextrose to my scalp on a somewhat regular basis. I will let you all know if anything significant seems to happen.

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        wester130 @Gaston
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        @Gaston i do something very similar and apply lysine to the scalp, another builder of collagen

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          LetTheRedeemed @Gaston
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          @Gaston Oh wow good to know. Thanks for sharing!

          I've stopped urea use on my scalp posthaste. In light of what you mention, I'm thinking of using urea on some skin growth spots on my body (particularly skin bumps under my eyes I got when I did carnivore and got deadly allergies). Do you have thoughts on that from your research?

          Would you mind sharing what improvements you've noticed from increasing pro-collagenous supps to the scalp?

          Also, I've been thinking of finding a good ascorbic acid/vit c powder for a few years now, and this has convinced me to pull the trigger -- do you have a source you'd suggest?

          Many thanks for your contributions, Gaston!

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            LetTheRedeemed @wester130
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            @wester130 have you noticed any symptoms of improvement?

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            • GastonG
              Gaston @LetTheRedeemed
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              @LetTheRedeemed I don't want to influence you too much because I'm honestly not very knowledgeable. You can continue using urea; just make sure to report back to us if it seems to harm your hair density.

              I'm getting slight regrowth on my temples, but that could be due to a dozen different factors.

              I use C-Salts Buffered vitamin C. I can't recommend it for any particular reason, it's just what I've always used.

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                LetTheRedeemed @Gaston
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                @Gaston gotcha. Thanks for sharing.

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                  serotoninskeptic @Hando-Jin
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                  @Hando-Jin Do you have a quote?

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                    wester130 @serotoninskeptic
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                    did anyone buy it from ebay?

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                      Moonpeat @LetTheRedeemed
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                      @LetTheRedeemed Have you seen any improvement since your last update?

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                      • Hando-JinH
                        Hando-Jin @serotoninskeptic
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                        @Serotoninskeptic

                        "Ray Peat: I've been thinking that with a concentrated glucose solution, you could probably activate hair growth just by keeping your scalp moistened with glucose."

                        https://dannyroddy.substack.com/p/lost-conversations-with-ray-peat

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                          LetTheRedeemed @Moonpeat
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                          @Moonpeat, hey, I essentially gave up after 3 weeks. I realized that as much as I may not like it, I have more pressing health issues to fix first

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                          • MauritioM
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                            I want to mention the anti-prolactin angle again on this thread.
                            I think applying an anti-prolactin chemical topically to the scalp , should be very effective.
                            I'm thinking about lisuride, bromocriptine or 5aDHP, which isn't just anti-prolactin but also a progestogen so even better.

                            Dare to think.

                            My X:
                            x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                            • GastonG
                              Gaston @Mauritio
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                              @Mauritio I've been applying bromocriptine to my scalp on an irregular basis for quite awhile and I can't say that it's produced any miracles.

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                              • MauritioM
                                Mauritio @Gaston
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                                @Gaston Ok.
                                I've even wondering about topical lidocaine as well. It is anti prolactin and anti inflammatory .

                                Dare to think.

                                My X:
                                x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                  wester130 @Mauritio
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                                  @Mauritio said in Reversal of hair loss in Mice with “sugar gel”:

                                  lidocaine

                                  would a gel work?

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                                  • MauritioM
                                    Mauritio @wester130
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                                    @wester130 not sure , what are the exact ingredients ?

                                    Dare to think.

                                    My X:
                                    x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                      wester130 @Mauritio
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                                      @Mauritio

                                      alcohol, clove oil, glycerol, hydroxypropyl cellulose, sodium
                                      saccharin, Ponceau 4R (E124) and purified water.

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                                      • MauritioM
                                        Mauritio @wester130
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                                        @wester130
                                        I would simply use lidocaine dissolved in water since it's widely available in most countries.

                                        Have you tried the NMN topically ?

                                        Dare to think.

                                        My X:
                                        x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                          wester130 @Mauritio
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                                          @Mauritio i think menthol anhd liodcaine share some properties

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                                          • MauritioM
                                            Mauritio @wester130
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                                            @wester130 what kind of answer is this ? Lol

                                            But since we're taking menthol it has some anti testosterone/estrogenic effects

                                            https://bioenergetic.forum/post/38971

                                            Dare to think.

                                            My X:
                                            x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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