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    Rudolf Steiner's Great Lectures Has Me As Impressed As When I Started on My Health Journey with Ray Peat

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      wrl @yerrag
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      @yerrag
      Fwiw, here's another resource for written works:

      Articles include documents written for publication in a journal, formal addresses, and other materials that are neither books nor lectures

      https://rsarchive.org/Articles/

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        yerrag @wrl
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        @wrl

        Plenty more. Overflowing. Thanks!

        Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
        engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
        wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
        the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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          Peatful
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          Rudolf was an occultist

          The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

          SD

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            wrl @Peatful
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            @Peatful
            An incredibly scientific one you could say

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              Peatful @wrl
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              @wrl said in Rudolf Steiner's Great Lectures Has Me As Impressed As When I Started on My Health Journey with Ray Peat:

              @Peatful
              An incredibly scientific one you could say

              Hmmm
              Right up there with Bill Gates I suppose

              The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

              SD

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                OliverCloasov @Peatful
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                @Peatful The occult just means hidden knowledge, implying that someone who studies such things is bad is a false dichotomy. Gates is terrible for many other reasons and to lump Steiner in with him is just absurd

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                  Peatful @OliverCloasov
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                  @OliverCloasov
                  although undeniably bright and possibly altruistic
                  from the little that I know and have read of him - there’s deception or confusion

                  Ie: “Freemasonry and Ritual Work: The Misraim Service”

                  He’s not intentionally deceiving al a Gates
                  But
                  He lost his way seeking Truth

                  Edit: extra word

                  The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                  SD

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                    OliverCloasov @Peatful
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                    @Peatful That's fair enough, though I think there are aspects of Truth within the Occult worth being availed of (my 2c)

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                      yerrag @OliverCloasov
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                      @OliverCloasov

                      Respect Peatful's belief in Baltimore Catechism. She needs a nihil obstat and imprimatur or she'll have to keep confessing.

                      Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                      engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                      wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                      the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                        Peatful @yerrag
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                        @yerrag said in Rudolf Steiner's Great Lectures Has Me As Impressed As When I Started on My Health Journey with Ray Peat:

                        @OliverCloasov

                        Respect Peatful's belief in Baltimore Catechism. She needs a nihil obstat and imprimatur or she'll have to keep confessing.

                        Ad hominem?
                        (argument or reaction) directed against a person rather than the position they are maintaining.

                        If that’s a bunch of Catholic vernacular
                        I am more troubled by that than Steiner probably

                        Edit: word

                        The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                        SD

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                          yerrag @Peatful
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                          @Peatful

                          Ahh ... Didn't I say what is as close as one gets to reveal your bias as programmed into you? If we rejected our medical brainwashing and embraced Ray Peat, shouldn't we be more likely to reject other analogues as well? Shouldn't you?

                          Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                          engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                          wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                          the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                            wrl @Peatful
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                            @Peatful said in Rudolf Steiner's Great Lectures Has Me As Impressed As When I Started on My Health Journey with Ray Peat:

                            Ie: “Freemasonry and Ritual Work: The Misraim Service”

                            Fwiw, https://rsarchive.org/Search.php?q=Misraim

                            The Essence and Task of Freemasonry from the Point of View of Spiritual Science
                            — https://rsarchive.org/Lectures/GA093/English/RSP1985/19041209p01.html

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                              bot-mod @Peatful
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                              @Peatful said in Rudolf Steiner's Great Lectures Has Me As Impressed As When I Started on My Health Journey with Ray Peat:

                              Rudolf was an occultist

                              "Voice your prophecy, shed us some light"

                              The ramblings of an occultist may be useful. Assuming I and all can be very very careful with it.

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                                yerrag @bot-mod
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                                @ThinPicking said in Rudolf Steiner's Great Lectures Has Me As Impressed As When I Started on My Health Journey with Ray Peat:

                                @Peatful said in Rudolf Steiner's Great Lectures Has Me As Impressed As When I Started on My Health Journey with Ray Peat:

                                Rudolf was an occultist

                                "Voice your prophecy, shed us some light"

                                The ramblings of an occultist may be useful. Assuming I and all can be very very careful with it.

                                To throw shade at some great leader, saying he is an occultist can be likened to saying that he is the kind possessed with dark spirits that makes him capable of genocides such as the Holocaust.

                                Have you ever read that Hitler engages in the occult?

                                Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                  Peatful
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                                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Steiner

                                  Gnostic. Occultist. Psuedohistorian. Etc

                                  He was lost.
                                  So confused and deceived.

                                  Sad.

                                  The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                  SD

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                                    Peatful
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                                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occultism_in_Nazism

                                    The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                    SD

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                                      yerrag @Peatful
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                                      @Peatful

                                      Go with Wikipedia as your Bible when you see fit.

                                      Calling a cat a dog because Wiki says a dog meows is just peachy.

                                      Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                      engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                      wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                      the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                        Peatful @yerrag
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                                        @yerrag

                                        https://www.hickorystickbookshop.com/book/9781805476719

                                        https://www.electricalspirituality.com/rudolf-steiner-a-great-philosopher-and-esotericist/

                                        Youtube Video

                                        https://rsarchive.org/Articles/GA034/English/SOL2024/05_Introduction_to_Lucifer-Gnosis.html

                                        You have said elsewhere that you hated me
                                        You speak hatefully to me
                                        Please block me

                                        The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

                                        SD

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                                          yerrag @Peatful
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                                          @Peatful

                                          I don't hate you. But if you feel it, it's because we're on different wavelengths on some areas, but not on all areas

                                          That stuff about nihil obstat and imprimatur isn't an ad hom. But I ignore that because you know it's not. I don't want to defend myself on that because that never stops once we get into that.

                                          But what I ever said to you never implied hate, and I'm sure I don't use that word on you. That would only happen between me and a person I have intense personal friendships with and ended up in great disappointment. We never were great friends.

                                          But you can block me. I don't have to block you.

                                          Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                          engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                          wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                          the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                                            Butter Girl @yerrag
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                                            @yerrag said in Rudolf Steiner's Great Lectures Has Me As Impressed As When I Started on My Health Journey with Ray Peat:

                                            I share what I posted to my viber group:

                                            Good afternoon, I would like to share with you an exhaustive series of talks given by Rudolf Steiner made about a hundred years ago. These recordings are very interesting to listen to, if only because it gives me a window into our human development that predates Christianity, Buddhism, and Zoroastrianism, and further back into what we consider Atlantis. It dwelves into the stars and the sun, into the angels such as the Thrones, and into Lucifer, and into Adam. As materialistically and scientifically and technologically wrapped as we are now, we should also look into our past to appreciate how humanity has evolved and advanced over the epochs. Despite these advances, we are somehow unable to break free from the vestiges of an earlier underdeveloped part of our humanity, being controlled by what can be considered a reptilian-minded reactionary ideology and priesthood, which has held back our development into more compassionate selves that reflect the spirit of the Buddha and the Christ.

                                            Why the world is so makes me question many tenets deep in our faith, especially with how I felt our pope failed us in protecting us from what I feel are lies and actual bodily and societal harm. It is as if the church is one with the establishment, and the establishment not at all serving God and the common good.

                                            Rudolf Steiner is someone I have not been familiar with, but in listening to his talks, I felt that we should have listened to- more than the standard catechism in CLE.(Christian Life Education). He has a following in the many schools named after him, where he emphasized learning and development that makes a child develop well, especially to face learning with self discovery, and to develop a critical mind that even our fabled Jesuit education has fallen short of.

                                            He has also developed hia own system of agriculture, which is also anathema to what modern gricultural colleges would teach us.

                                            For there is more to just getting a degree from highly credentialed schools, Ivy League or Ateneo or La Salle be damned. There is a lot out there beyond what our schools drill into our head.

                                            But this is all I can say. If you're like me, you will be immersed in enjoying and looking forward to the next lecture in his very long series of talks. The heavy traffic in the metro is one I enjoy now, if only because this is when his talks get my undivided attention.

                                            I think we are fortunate to be exposed to I.I (Individualized Instruction). It is as if we are used to learning on our own, at our pace, and we can easily do it alone in the privacy of our drives, meals, and walks, where we have the chance to nourish our minds.

                                            I have been very negative about the main influencers who see their role as God's chosen people as something of an entitlement rather than as a call to serve humanity. Until I listened to these lectures. I now feel sorry for them instead. For they have seen fit to be guided by laws from an underdeveloped epoch, and still are bound by the letter of laws from an earlier time where man has not learned of the capacity to love, and are unable to accept new laws that are based on compassion and to act in the newly acquired spirit.

                                            Here is the link to his trove of lectures:

                                            https://rudolfsteineraudio.com/lecturesimagebased.html

                                            n.b. Someone here shared this link with me. I want to thank him for that. I could not find the thread we were in. I would have thought searching for "Steiner" as a keyword would be a simple matter. Seems like depending on packaged search engines leave us to trust the reliability of such engines, and it has disappointed me. It is the same here as it was in the RPF. @brad nothing against you but that is the nature of tech. Which is why I subscribe to a search app service on my cellphone, and pay for it, to get good search performance.

                                            Many of Steiner’s predictions are coming true- especially today.
                                            I don’t care what his religious persuasions are. He was right about many things.
                                            The information he shared is what’s important.

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