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      pannacottas @wester130
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      @wester130 I always test anything I make and plan to sell on myself rigorously to ensure it is the best it can be. In other words I can't sell anything I don't use.
      I've had a really bad experience with DHEA (pansterone) in regards to estrogenic side effects, so I'm extremely cautious with anything that can convert into estrogen. That's why I haven't made a Testosterone formula yet.

      However I have plans for new products which could include a Testosterone gel. Will make a separate thread with a poll on what other products you guys would like.

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        Pleyades @pannacottas
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        @pannacottas Great news, I'll be on the lookout for updates!

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          Pleyades
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          A question I have, now in summer with daily pool/beach, how many hours do you think should pass until the topic is absorbed? Thanks!

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            16characterstwas
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            Seems raising ones total Testosterone to over 4 milligrams a day is likely to result in the excess turning into estrogen:

            Post in thread 'Ray Peat Email Advice Depository'
            https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/ray-peat-email-advice-depository.1035/post-386792

            …

            Ray Peat said:
            … A healthy young man produces about 4 mg of testosterone..so 80 mg per week [of testosterone] seems hugely excessive. An excess of either is likely to be turned into estrogen..

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              Ismail @pannacottas
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              @pannacottas Just out of interest, how much DHEA were you taking? Were you combining it with pregnenolone or progesterone by any chance? Thanks.

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                pannacottas @Pleyades
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                @Pleyades Ideally you should leave it for at least 2 hours before showering/swimming. After around 4 hours most of it will have absorbed.

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                  pannacottas @Ismail
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                  @Ismail It was between 5-15mg, from Pansterone (DHEA + Pregnenolone 1:1).

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                    jamezb46 @pannacottas
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                    @pannacottas How do you know the side effects were estrogen related?

                    In time there is life but no knowledge; outside time there is knowledge but no life

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                      sunsunsun @jamezb46
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                      @jamezb46 when I have too much estrogen, attempts at insults from men mean nothing to me and it's just funny / pathetic. if im slightly estrogenic ill ruminate on them instead.

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                        Gila @pannacottas
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                        @pannacottas Are you still sourcing from QSC? I looked over at the thinksteroids forum and apparently QSC has had legal troubles for a while now and aren't selling anymore.

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                          LetTheRedeemed @sunsunsun
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                          @sunsunsun joke about sending a pic of his huge weiner

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