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    Bile can serve as a reservoir for funghi, making them harder to treat

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    • MauritioM Offline
      Mauritio
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      Interesting thanks for sharing. which essential oils do you find to be most effective ?

      Dare to think.

      My X:
      x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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        CrumblingCookie @Mauritio
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        @sunsunsun Thanks. How much and for how long had you been taking BPC orally? And what did it do for you?
        I've started pinning 500µg pd yesterday. If it works as great as I desperately hope it will I'll be drinking it, gargling it, snorting it, dripping it in my eyes and ears and rubbing my face with it.

        @mauritio Serrapeptase is powerful. Gave me painful colon cramps even stronger than from pancreatic enzymes, which I assume fits in dumping syndrome as it reached lower GI parts it should never have without prior absorption.
        But against fungi in particular I don't know. There are a few enzyme products which also contain (hemi)cellulases which I'd rather choose. Cellulases are the next best thing to actual chitinases to break down that respective part of fungal cell walls and biofilm.
        @mauritio The allicin supplements seem like a well laid-out scam to me. The high prices and the tiny allicin contents are ridiculous. That's why chose fresh garlic. It's crucial to wait at least 10mins after crushing it so that alliinase can convert alliin to allicin.
        @mauritio I reckon you're fine with TUDCA. I chose UDCA because I (A) reacted badly to extra taurine, (B) it's the medically used form, (C) it's cheaper.
        I got it from my favorite dear courtly purveyor of fine powders from the lands of plenty far far east.
        Just a thought I got: To keep an eye on repleted choline when you're staying keen on bile expulsion.
        @Mauritio Kestose sounds more like an alternative to fat binders if the goal is to lose body fat through constant steatarrhea and bile acid loss. To not be bothered by these changes I reckon one's stool must be quite good already or even on the dry, constipated side.

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          sunsunsun @CrumblingCookie
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          @CrumblingCookie once in awhile if I forgot not to lie down immediately after taking aspirin (can cause heartburn) or take aspirin on an empty stomach and it feels irritating I will take 250mcg-500mcg bpc and it cures it. a reconstituted vial lasts months in the fridge in the dark.

          are you going to take florastor when you are done the anti fungal protocol?

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            lobotomize @sunsunsun
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            @sunsunsun starting chemotherapy for acne

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              CrumblingCookie @sunsunsun
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              @sunsunsun Mhh... I was going to say no but now you've made me ponder whether it'd be good for a stretched-out transition of suppressing Candida species recolonization. Or whether its effects would be as bad on physiologic restoration as taking bacterial probiotics after antibiotic treatment...
              It'd probably be good though to spend time along healthy forests and meadows in order to pick up a symbiotic mycobiome, I imagine. Perhaps to do both.

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                yerrag @Mauritio
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                @Mauritio said:

                Interesting thanks for sharing. which essential oils do you find to be most effective ?

                These essentials that contain esters that are generally antifungal: petit grain, lavender, ylang ylang, clary sage, geranium, roman chamomile

                Based on Advanced Aromatherapy: The Science of Essential Oil Therapy, 1995 by Kurt Schnaubelt, PhD

                Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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                  sunsunsun @CrumblingCookie
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                  @CrumblingCookie you can make fizzy juice with it by just dissolving the powder in juice and sealing the container

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                    @CrumblingCookie I’ve had tons of success with BPC, both personally and with people I’ve recommended it to. One caveat is that it’s most effective at 10mcg/kg of body weight. There is a single doctor in TX who has actually been recording his clinical success rates with it and this seems the threshold. Many if not all of the oral versions do not contain high enough doses to reach the magical 10mcg/kg dose.

                    If you don’t find you’re having success, check your dose and try this doctor’s recommendation. It healed a separated shoulder that bothered me for over a year in about a month at that dosage.

                    I’ve also recently tried the liposomal preparation by Infiniwell, and it healed some tendinitis I was dealing with in about 5 days, (typically I need 2 weeks to see a tendon injury heal with BPC).

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                      sunsunsun @lobotomize
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                      @lobotomize fungal infection can cause or increase risk of issues like liver damage or cancer or seizures, I suspect even warts and skin tags. a not-insignificant % of some organ cancers have been shown to have fungal infections as well and treatment of the cancer is more effective by treating the fungal issue too. OP thinks their issue is worth treating via the nuclear route so who are we to judge, especially when doctors generally don't take this kind of stuff seriously unless someone is already in the hospital and doing very poorly already. The potential toxic effect of flucocytosine might be worth it for the increased positive health potential afterwards.

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                        sunsunsun @evan.hinkle
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                        @evan.hinkle would you be a gentlemen and post a link, and clarify that you were taking bps-acetate orally to heal an injury?

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                          evan.hinkle @sunsunsun
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                          @sunsunsun https://infiniwell.com/products/bpc-lx-pro-spray

                          This is the liposomal spray I used recently and had a great experience with.

                          I’ve used their oral preparation in the past as well, but that’s the arginate version, (which you mentioned being less interested in)

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                            sunsunsun @evan.hinkle
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                            @evan.hinkle link to tx doctor reports?

                            all I mean about arginate form is if someone can't get it , it doesn't matter. im pretty sure the acetate form works like 95% as good even orally

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                              @sunsunsun the Texas doctor is something I came across a lifetime ago. I can’t imagine I could find it again. I may have heard about it via Jay Campbell’s podcast, (not bioenergetic orientated). Campbell was a somewhat mainstream early proponent of peptides. If it wasn’t there, then it was Ben Greenfield, (this was all pre-Peat for me).

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                                Mauritio @CrumblingCookie
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                                @CrumblingCookie said:

                                Kestose sounds more like an alternative to fat binders if the goal is to lose body fat through constant steatarrhea and bile acid loss. To not be bothered by these changes I reckon one's stool must be quite good already or even on the dry, constipated side.

                                Not sure, it has the same mechanism as many other things discussed in this thread. Increase in bile acid synthesis. TUDCA does that too.
                                On top of that it increases short chain fatty acids like butyrate and also F. Prausnitzii, which lowers serotonin and glycolisis and increases OxPhos and salicylic acid.
                                Since Im more on the constipated side of things I'll give it a go.

                                Dare to think.

                                My X:
                                x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                  Mauritio @yerrag
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                                  @yerrag said:

                                  These essentials that contain esters that are generally antifungal: petit grain, lavender, ylang ylang, clary sage, geranium, roman chamomile

                                  Aren't some/ most of them estrogenic?

                                  Dare to think.

                                  My X:
                                  x.com/Metabolicmonstr

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                                    yerrag @Mauritio
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                                    @Mauritio said:

                                    @yerrag said:

                                    These essentials that contain esters that are generally antifungal: petit grain, lavender, ylang ylang, clary sage, geranium, roman chamomile

                                    Aren't some/ most of them estrogenic?

                                    Yes, they are. But they're for therapeutic use.
                                    Antibiotics can be harmful, but we take them because usage is limited.
                                    Usage of these is not a lifestyle choice.

                                    Temporal thinking is the faculty that’s
                                    engaged by an enriched environment, but it’s
                                    wrong to call it “thinking,” because it’s simply
                                    the way organisms exist... - Ray Peat Nov 2017 Newsletter

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