Random, interesting studies
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@cs3000
Thanks for clearing up this issue of the policosanols in beeswax being non-hydrolysed and therefore essentially useless.I had been using 20mg policosanols daily (the Swanson product) for a couple of months: Mildly beneficial for digestion and maybe overall.
Then I had used yellow beeswax for a while and every now and then at equivalent amounts of c. 2grams, as per the older info on the RPF, and that never helped with anything and distinctly worsened digestion. From your answer I now finally know why. -
@CrumblingCookie np ah fits then, funny how this stuff works sometimes. soon after seeing this i got honeycomb as a gift. probably would have ate a decent amount & irritated my intestine damage more if not for this thread & looking into it. great timing
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@cs3000 same I was about to reorder honeycomb from Italy, but don't want to risk stomach blockade or anything similar.
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@Mauritio said in Random, interesting studies:
@cs3000 same I was about to reorder honeycomb from Italy, but don't want to risk stomach blockade or anything similar.
You Can still get different effects from it even if you dont swallow the comb, sometimes more powerfull than honey in jar.
There is claims on internet associated with ayurveda that scealed honey comb retain his prana much longer than honey in jar.
I suggest to buy it only from a beekeepers you Can ask questions, due to some beekeepers using plastic/synthetic materials that end up in the comb
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Regarding low protein:
"Hong Kong has one of the highest meat consumption per capita in the world at 664g per day."
"Hong Kong people have a very long life expectancy. In 2023, the expectancy of life at birth for men and women was 83 years and 88 years."
Okinawans ate a lot of pork too when they topped the longevity charts. Not sure how to explain this contradiction. In general meat consumption correlates positively with lifespan:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8881926/
Low protein looks great in studies but I didn't feel particularly good on it, nor did I lose weight.
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Low protein looks great in studies but I didn't feel particularly good on it, nor did I lose weight.
I'm simplifying, but I think the benefits of restricting protein (or some amino acids) are proportional to the degree of metabolic dysfunction someone is in. The more dysfunctional the metabolism, the greater the possible benefits of restriction, the less dysfunctional the metabolism, the greater the potential detriments of restriction.
Ray's approach interests me more because it considers how needs change with ageing. Amino acids such as methionine, cysteine and tryptophan seem to have been considered in a growth context, they are “essential” but the amount in adulthood is much lower than in a growth phase, so the priority of amino acids changes
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@TexugoDoMel That is in conflict with the study I posted above that shows a strongly protective effect for old people on a high protein diet. There metabolism should be more damaged so that doesn't add up.
I know it's only a correlation, but the correlation is so strong that it seems likely that there is causality as well.
What's intriguing as well that the correlation was removed when people consumed plant protein and not animal protein. Plant protein has a lot less methionine, which would explain the lower cancer rates. Cancer has what's called methionine addiction ...
Dare to think.
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I oversimplified haha, in “degree of dysfunction” I include the type of dysfunction, since I think everything that is healthy works in the same way but at different levels of complexity.
I don't know if I would consider that it conflicted with the study (I'm commenting based on what you said, I haven't read it yet), unless I only considered protein intake as a variable. If I put age in context the level of protein has a different effect, in a young person you would have a lot of protein in an environment with a lot more hormones (such as IGF-1, since you mentioned the cancer issue) but this would not happen with someone old since the hormonal environment is different, if high protein helps fight something simple like sarcopenia in old age then it would be enough to see a protective effect, since a healthy amount of muscle helps preserve independence and the ability to live normally and not locked up without being able to do anything without someone along.
The minimum of methionine, tryptophan, cysteine that a young person needs is probably higher than an elderly person in a general context, but consuming above a level should cause other problems that you wouldn't see in an elderly person because the general context is different. Maybe in the future high/low protein will take on a secondary role and amino acid composition will get more attention, because I doubt that high protein is in a context of high collagen, for example haha
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@random I saw a boomer who uses used plastic and ink political voting signs for racks in his bee hives lololol
and once I found a plastic string inside a honeycomb, and also I found out they keep the hives under an airplane landing path next to the airport loloollol -
Giving young mice a microdose of 1mg DNP had some interesting effects on their health. Thats an insanely low dose. While I'm usually cautious with DNP, this dose seems safe.
(1mg= HED, not sure if i calculated the dosage right)Benefits:
- Lowered weight gain
- Strongly increased oxygen consumption, especially in brain
- Strongly decreased free radicals concentration (hydrogen peroxide)
- Increases life span by about 7%
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@TexugoDoMel Yes, all fair points.
I was thinking along similar lines. The benefits of high protein, must somehow outweigh its downsides in old age. I think immunity and avoiding sarcopenia are two likely candidates for those benefits.
