Random, interesting studies
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@lobotomize yeah you have a point. Maybe I'll make some of larger posts (like the coca one)into a thread.
When I start I never know what a posts turns out to be, because it depends how much fun it is to research it, so that's why i just drop all the studies here. -
Theobromine drastically Upregulated UCP1 AND PGC1a. Only in vitro, set still interesting.
Been wanting to try it for a while .
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@Mauritio - Have you considered food sources?
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@Mauritio - Have you considered food sources?
Foods Ranked 1 - 20 With Theobromine
My expectations for such a list were low but nevertheless beaten by such impressive stubborness:
It's only variations of cocoa and chocolate!
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@DavidPS yes, I like chocolate, but it contains too much heavy metals.
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@Mauritio - thank you for bringing theobromine to my attention. I plan on trying it after things settle down after the holidays.
I am anticipating that theobromine will stress my nervous system in much the same way that caffeine stresses it and I plan on timimg my daily doses much like I do with coffee.
Health benefits and mechanisms of theobromine (2024)
Highlights
ā¢ Theobromine, a member of the methylxanthine class of compounds, has multiple potential health benefits.
ā¢ Theobromine acts as a non-selective antagonist of adenosine receptors, operates as a competitive and non-selective inhibitor of phosphodiesterases, and disrupts the activity of poly(ADP-ribose) polymerase 1 to exert its physiological functions. Theobromine, due to its low toxicity and versatility, can be employed as an additive in functional foods.
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@DavidPS said in Random, interesting studies:
I am anticipating that theobromine will stress my nervous system
Mind theobromine if weak cardia muscle (acid reflux)
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@DavidPS you're welcome.
Theobromine is supposed to be less stimulating for the CNS than caffeine.Here's another study where it strongly increased tyrosine hydroxilase and dopamine receptors in a mouse model of ADHD.
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Aspirin alleviates fibrosis in mouse model. Hed~600mg.
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Effect of different foods on gallbladder volume/emptying
If you suffer from stuck bile/ gallbladder issues this might be an interesting study.
You can see some interesting observations in the above images
C is a yoghurt drink. In D they just added 3g of protein to the yoghurt drink and increased gallbladder emptying by about 40% .
Adding just 80mg of Curcumin (E) to the yoghurt more then doubled gallbladder volume change. Almost as good as that is coffee (F), even though it contains very little fat.
And then among the best is semi skimmed milk (H).So I wonder if you could have added benefits on gallbladder emptying by putting milk in your coffee and maybe adding some Curcumin (80mg is very little)?
Anyhow, as the image below shows very small amounts of fat are actually needed to stimulate CCK. And between 6 and 10g there was alnost no difference. So around 6g might be the best calorie /CCK ratio.
Just having a teaspoon of olive oil should be enough. And I can agree with that from my experience
Another interesting observation was that fasting gallbladder volume was very different from person to person. There was a 5x difference from the person with the lowest to the highest gallbladder volume.
Source:
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"Increasing coffee consumption by one cup per day was associated with a 15% reduction in liver cancer risk (RR 0.85; 95% CI 0.82 to 0.88)."
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5622710/
Coffee lowers risk for gallstones
"...those with coffee intake of >6 cups daily had 23% lower risk of GSD compared to individuals without coffee intake [hazard ratio (HR) = 0.77 (95% confidence interval: 0.61-0.94)]."
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Here's another study showing gallbladder contraction after drinking coffee. This is probably part of the reason it helps people go to the bathroom.
Coffee was far superior than a salt solution of the same amount.
And decaffeinated coffee was slightly less effective."An average gallbladder contraction of 33 +/- 7% was observed after 165 mL regular coffee and 29 +/- 10% after 165 mL decaffeinated coffee, whereas after 165 mL sodium chloride the contraction was only 10 +/- 12%."
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haribo and most gummies have beeswax
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@lobotomize what does that have to do with anything ?
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@cs3000 said in Random, interesting studies:
But the studies all used very low units < 1000 daily heq, so might be worse effects going to those extremes
Gonna try 50mg split into meals , unless its a low unit one.
I should be a prime candidate for testing thisHey @cs3000 had you tried the oral catalase enzyme powder? At what dosages and to what effects?
As I'm currently much looking into copper, SOD, step 4 and 5 of the ETC the interplay with catalase comes into play for the whole H+, e-, O2-, H202 to then H2O in quenching and settling the process.
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@CrumblingCookie ive tried it and it seemed to have a beautifying effect on my face . Skin and hair looked better. Unfortunately it made me gain weight. But a lot of substances do that, a lot of them inhibit FAO so it might have to do with that .
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Pectin inhibits liver fat accumulation.
It also increases certain bacteria strains, which was always one of Peats criticisms on it, but they include Akkermansia muciniphila, which is quite a good bacteria strain to have IMO.
Pectin also increased CYP7A1, which increases bile acid synthesis and FXR, the bile acid receptor.
No increase in serotonin was found.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/40860180/
Pectin prevents the development of atherosclerosis
Again it's through increasing Akkermansia which inhibits the proliferation of the atherosclerotic-related bacterium, l.lactis, by producing acetic acid .
Ray Peat on acetic acid:
" Vinegar is a bacterial chemical. The acetic acid is the bacteria's way of killing fungus."https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41166910/
Another study where pectin alleviates NAFLD.
It increases SCFAs like acetate and propionate and shifts composition of mice biome.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29987933/
Different sources of pectin bind different heavy metals:
Beet pectin is best for binding Lead and copper
Apple pectin for Cobalt
And Citrus pectin for NickelAlso, in the Sample they used in the study, Heavy metals were already present /bound to pectin.
I did the math with chatgpt and the concentration of lead would come down to ~30mg/kg, which is very high. So high that it would bot be allowed to be sold as a food/supplement. So I'm not sure if this has any relevance on today's pectin supplements that are available, because they're being tested for heavy metals and the upper limit is something like 3mg/kg in the EU.
Plus the heavy metals would mostly not get absorbed because pectin also doesn't get absorbed and the pectin would probably still bind more lead than it releases. So it still seems safe."...selectivity sequences we found for pectins: Pb2+ >> Cu2+ > Co2+ > Ni2+ >> Zn2+ > Cd2+. It was shown that a beet pectin exhibits a high affinity for Pb2+ and Cu2+ ions, an apple pectin for Co2+ ion and a citrus pectin for Ni2+ ion."
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10204240/
Human study: 15g of pectin did not interfere with sodium, potassium, chloride, ionised calcium, total and ionised magnesium, iron and copper, in this study.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/9630767/
Human study: 20g/d of low esterified citrus pectin decreases inflammatory cytokines and increases anti-inflammatory ones. Also decreases anxiety.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39408292/
__high esterified pectin increases FGF21 and klotho
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9585587/
Pectin restores testosterone and other hormones that were reduced by cadmium exposure.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23193971/__
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@Mauritio said in Random, interesting studies:
what does that have to do with anything ?
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@Mauritio said in Random, interesting studies:
ive tried it and it seemed to have a beautifying effect on my face . Skin and hair looked better. Unfortunately it made me gain weight. But a lot of substances do that
I'm all in favor of beautification! Neat.
How much, how many Units of catalase were you taking and for how long? On an empty stomach?
It's strange that there are not published human trials on exogenous catalase.There are two recent studies from 2023 and 2025
wherein the authors complexed the catalase in calcium alginate microspheres, thereby protecting the enzyme from both acidic pH and protein degradation whilst ensuring its release in alkaline pH.
Should be very effective against UC and IBD.As much as I wish I won't be creating alginate microspheres anytime soon. Perhaps there's merit to at least using stomach-resistant encapsulation, though, or alternatively just a stubbornly higher dose.
