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    • MauritioM Offline
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      Apple polyphenols protect from aspirin induced stomach damage.
      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25069887/
      https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/18482463/

      Honey and propolis help as well.
      https://www.mdpi.com/2072-6643/13/9/3169
      https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2214785321029254

      The protection always seems to stem from the polyphenol content of those foods. So I suspect that eating anything that has alot of polyphenols with the aspirin should work. Berries, fruits, or a glass of Orange juice.

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        @Mauritio said in Random, interesting studies:

        anything that has alot of polyphenols with the aspirin should work.

        Yes, to counteract excess oxidation and then inflammation. But we need to optimize mucin thickness with glutamine (and taurine to counteract the excitotoxcity in the brain).
        I take half a teaspoon of taurine and the same with glutamine powder, one hour before bedtime, when I feel a stomach acidity. No glutamine if you suffer from dysbiosis (suspicion of candidiasis: it feeds the bacteria).
        When it's nervous, L-theanine 225 mg and 1 tsp collagen do the job (cramp). Never take SSRS as a usual med...

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          "The effect of vitamin A supplementation on plasma estrogen and progesterone were studied in pregnant women. While there was no change in the estrogen concentration, the mean increment in plasma progesterone in the supplemented group was significant when compared to the unsupplemented group. It is suggested that vitamin A supplementation to undernourished pregnant women may have beneficial effect on feto-placental function."
          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/1856040/

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            CrumblingCookie @Mauritio
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            Now here's something controversial and interesting from Cell:
            To take probiotics post-antibiotic treatment can will inhibit restoration of one's microbiome in contrast to simply letting things run its course without any post-antibiotic intervention (if one's lucky enough to not get a CDI, of course. Yet the course for that may have been set already during Abx treatment, we don't really know if probiotics after Abx can rescue that).
            A much more effective method could be "autologous fecal matter transplant". No foreign donor required.
            Collecting, filtering, liquefying and freezing one's pre-antibiotic healthy microbiome and using this once on day 0 after antibiotic treatment.
            Like in hamsters: Eating your own shit. This enriches the (mostly preserved) endogenous microbiome reserves and puts them back from the end to the more proximal parts of the digestive system.

            Post-Antibiotic Gut Mucosal Microbiome Reconstitution Is Impaired by Probiotics and Improved by Autologous FMT, 2018

            Compared to spontaneous post-antibiotic recovery, probiotics induced a markedly delayed and persistently incomplete indigenous stool/mucosal microbiome reconstitution and host transcriptome recovery toward homeostatic configuration, while aFMT induced a rapid and near-complete recovery within days of administration.

            In rodent experiments, the degree of mucosal colonization and shedding of human-specific probiotics even after antibiotic pretreatment was small. Pointing yet again to a huge importance of specificity between host species and strain.
            I.e. rodent studies for testing probiotic benefits in humans ought to be quite garbage.
            The study went on to human volunteers with the same and apparently very reasonable 11-strain Lactobacillus + Bifidobacterium probiotic blend ("Supherb Bio-25", 25 billion CFU twice daily):

            Following antibiotic treatment, seven participants were followed by watchful waiting for spontaneous microbiome reconstitution, six participants received aFMT (STAR Methods), and eight participants received the aforementioned 11-strain probiotics preparation administered bi-daily for a period of 4 weeks (Figure 3A).

            participants from the aFMT arm received an intrajejunal infusion of 150 ml of processed and liquefied stool (on day 0), which had been obtained from the participant prior to the antibiotics therapy

            In the spontaneous recovery group, significant differences in stool composition compared to baseline abated within 21 days of antibiotics cessation (Figure 4B). In contrast, probiotics-consuming individuals did not return to their baseline stool microbiome configuration by the end of the intervention period (day 28), and dysbiosis was maintained even 5 months after probiotics cessation, with all stool samples collected through day 180 remaining significantly different from baseline

            dun- dun dun dun.


            And here's another interesting find from nature microbiology, where they blasted volunteers with the three "last-resort" antibiotics meropenem, gentamicin and vancomycin:

            Recovery of gut microbiota of healthy adults following antibiotic exposure, 2018

            The gut microbiota of the subjects recovered to near-baseline composition within 1.5 months, although 9 common species, which were present in all subjects before the treatment, remained undetectable in most of the subjects after 180 days.

            That latter part sort of negates the first statement, doesn't it?

            Finally, some species detected at D0 were not detected again within the study time frame.
            These included: (1) members of genus Bifidobacterium that are considered pathogen-protective and immunostimulatory;
            2) butyrate producers such as Coprococcus eutactus and Eubacterium ventriosum and
            (3) methane-producing Methanobrevibacter smithii associated with the efficient digestion of polysaccharides.

            Remarkably, only two F. prausnitzii strains were able to recover by D180, another six could not recover through the study period (Supplementary Fig. 3), reflecting the different recovery capacities between conspecific strains.

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              " F prausnitzii EXL01 strain did not induce pro-inflammatory pathways compared with LPS, but up-regulated Oxidative Phosphorylation while down-regulating Glycolysis and Apoptosis pathways (Figure 5D and E)."

              "Interestingly, increasing doses of F prausnitzii EXL01 strain blocked LPS-induced glycolysis activation and OXPHOS inhibition (Figure 6B and C)."

              https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC13006548/

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                Mauritio @CrumblingCookie
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                @CrumblingCookie just saw you also posted about f. Prausnitzii. Nice synchronicity.
                For the purpose you mentioned above kestose might be beneficial. Since it increases butyrate and F. Prausnitzii.

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                  Interesting study showing endogenous metabolite of C15 fatty acid is a potent endocannabinoid, anti-inflammatory, agonist on 5HT1A + B, and Antagonist on histamine receptors.
                  C15 is part of idealabs LipOdd.

                  https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9399118/

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                    lobotomize @Mauritio
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                    @Mauritio pea?

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                    • MauritioM Offline
                      Mauritio @lobotomize
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                      @lobotomize full sentences?

                      Dare to think.

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                        lobotomize @Mauritio
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                        @Mauritio Palmitoylethanolamide similar effects

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                        • MauritioM Offline
                          Mauritio
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                          Activating the dopamine receptor D2 enhances life span. Using known longevity pathways like AMPK (in C. elegans).
                          https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35317792/

                          D2 is the gift the keeps on giving.


                          I made a thread about D2 years ago:

                          https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/low-dopamine-d2-receptor-density-leads-to-obesity-and-insulin-resistance-d2-agonism-may-treat.39178


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                            Clary Sage

                            shown to activate several dopamine receptors d2 as well
                            https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/20441789/

                            did not significantly increase estrogen when inhaled, increased prgesterone more than estrogen
                            https://www.mdpi.com/2076-3417/16/7/3234

                            increases Ca:ph ratio
                            https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/215c/5e47d31c14f3842b4bb095bf36de43d18723.pdf

                            increased testosterone and especially progesterone in vitro

                            "A significant (P<0.05) stimulation of testosterone secretion was recorded at 250 μg/ml for 24 h, while the prolonged cultivation time significantly (P<0.05) increased the testosterone and progesterone production at 150, 200, 250 and 300 μg/ml. "
                            https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8549893/

                            it helps with reproductive health damaged by cadmium
                            https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10682483/

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                              CrumblingCookie @Mauritio
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                              Why haven't y'all started superdosing melatonin yet instead of wasting lifetime and effort on quinones and saturating cardiolipins etc.?

                              Melatonin precedes the importance of quinones as it binds to and activates quinone reductase type 2 (NOQ2) to degrade oxidized, i.e. toxic quinones. Thus, clearly of top priority before adding any K2 (Mk-4) etc.

                              Melatonin reverses the Warburg-type (glycolytic) metabolism of cells.
                              This effect is self-enhancing, as reinstated OXPHOS enables intracellular melatonin synthesis.
                              Just as, without such exogenous intervention, the opposite development is a self-sustaining vicious cycle.

                              Dysfunctional mitochondria in age-related neurodegeneration: Utility of melatonin as an antioxidant treatment, 2024

                              Pathological neurons often exhibit Warburg type metabolism and redirect pyruvate into the mitochondria restores mitochondrial redox homeostasis; examples of diseases where this aberrant metabolism occurs include Alzheimer’s, Parkinsonism, amyotrophic lateral sclerosis and others (Reiter et al., 2021b). The ability of melatonin to interfere with Warburg type metabolism presumably relates to its inhibitory action of hypoxia inducible factor 1α (HIF1α), which suppresses the activity of pyruvate dehydrogenase kinase (PDK) which disinhibits PDC allowing pyruvate to enter the mitochondria followed by its conversion to acetyl CoA such that the limited availability of acetyl CoA no longer is a factor in the amount of melatonin synthesized in the mitochondria (Fig. 3) (Mota et al., 2019). These actions of melatonin are reminiscent of those using dichloroacetate, a pharmacological agent that also reverses Warburg type metabolism, perhaps by the same signaling pathway as melatonin and has generated interest as a useful pharmaceutical drug to treat several diseases (Chen et al., 2024b, Kakafika et al., 2024). It has limitations regarding its side effects, actions that do not accompany melatonin use (Bianchi et al., 2024).

                              Here you get a picture to go along with this:
                              images_medium_phy0022005060004.gif
                              https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/physiol.00034.2019

                              And here's a table with clinical observations on melatonin relevance in metabolic syndrome (humans):
                              https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11107716/table/Tab2/
                              And a table with experimentally shown effects of melatonin in animal models of metabolic syndrome:
                              https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11107716/table/Tab1/

                              Even better: Postmitotic cells aren't doomed to be left by themselves with their inherited pool of malfunctioning mitochondria because melatonin stimulates the transfer of mitochondria from healthy cells to damaged cells via tunneling nanotubes (TNTs)!
                              If you're now wondering what are tunneling nanotubes, here are pictures of them. They can form between mitochondria of the same cell as a precursor step to fusion and they can form between cells:
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                              Disturbingly and one the downside of this spectacular mechanism, even cancerous cells may use nanotubes to steal mitochondria from T-cells:
                              t-cell-nanotube-cancer
                              (I reckon those cancer types can't be running Warburg metabolism - or do they just steal the mitos and their ATP from the immune cells only to then crush them?)

                              And as yet another media of presentation, here's the timestamp (approx. 4mins) of an video interview with Prof. Russel Reiter, Ph.D. on this very topic of metabolism:
                              ![https://youtu.be/t4SuIUtCSLY?t=2825]

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                                @CrumblingCookie Yeah you cooking us here ngl

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                                  @alfredoolivas said:

                                  Yeah you cooking us here ngl

                                  No cap fr fr?

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                                    lobotomize @CrumblingCookie
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                                    @CrumblingCookie said:

                                    @alfredoolivas said:

                                    Yeah you cooking us here ngl

                                    No cap fr fr?

                                    Peat was generally suspicious of melatonin, especially as a darkness/stress-associated hormone. In one article, he grouped melatonin with “nocturnal/stress hormones” and argued it could make the retina more vulnerable under certain conditions

                                    Peat cited A.V. Sirotkin’s porcine ovary work, saying melatonin inhibited progesterone and stimulated estradiol. He then interpreted that pattern as similar to low thyroid: higher estrogen, lower progesterone, lower resistance to stres

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                                      @lobotomize Lol you are proving the crumbling cookie right. Muh darkness hormone.

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                                        @CrumblingCookie what dose maybaps u may know

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                                          CrumblingCookie @sunsunsun
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                                          @sunsunsun The very minimum metabolically effective dose over the long-run appears to be 20mg pd.
                                          The HED from animal experiments suggest 5-10mg/kg BW as the range where optimal/maximal effects set in and Prof. R Reiter mentions that several of his diabetic peers have accordingly been taking 500-1000mg pd.
                                          He himself is more conservative and reckons that 50-100mg should do most of the job and says one may consider body surface area instead of body weight as a perhaps more suitable benchmark for inter-species dosing conversions. The 50-100mg range is what he's been taking. Usually split up to c. 2hrs and c. 30mins before bedtime.
                                          C. 70mg pd is also the mean/median (40-200mg) of the two Argentinian human study populations with the good cardiovascular and neurological benefits. I get the impression that this range from 40-100mg may be a sufficient plateau over the long-term and/or in people without prior or acute health issues.

                                          I had started off with 10 + 20 +10mg last week but noticed that I need to stay in bed for at least 3hrs (which is also about the duration of a notably decreased body temp) after another 10mg in the early morning and will still be groggy all day (I was awake at 6am and thought: What a waste of nighttime; better take some more).
                                          Now I've made capsules with 80mg MEL along with 220mg Na-R-ALA, which is synergistic in many ways.
                                          (I'm going to make a small batch with also 40-50mg methylene blue in them as a complete acute ischaemia/reperfusion infarct remedy to have at hand for the elderly since still nobody's being indulged in receiving the medicinal Proveblue i.v. by the EMS despite all the evidence for it).

                                          Jeff T. Bowles was one of the early adopters of MEL in the 2010s and wrote to have taken 300-500mg for a long time and that on this dose he was very tired for three months but then it lifted. Which I find very interesting! Doris Loh endorses high-dose melatonin especially in acute inflammatory phases (cytokine storms, viral infections like Covid) and you'll see that her dosing recommendations reach well up to 4000mg pd for an adult, split up all throughout the day and night.

                                          (Apart from such acute cases it's however likely prudent to keep MEL intake away from daylight/artificial light/screentime hours because those rodent experiments showing acutely heightened potosensitivity of the retina by elevated melatonin concentrations may also hold true in humans.)

                                          On we go: Doris Loh suggested that higher-dose MEL (500-1000mg) may quickly overcome grogginess by lower-doses MEL. This notion possibly supports a kind of a drop-in-the-bucket scenario. Her exemplary suggestion (her main youtube video) to somebody 50yo of normal-weight and healthy is already 180mg, and to try 250mg if 5 or 10mg make you groggy. She stresses that sleep (function and quality) is a predominantly mitochondrial energy matter.
                                          It is noteworthy that reports on SS-31, the peptide which fixes broken mitochondrial membranes, also reveal that many people become extra tired from it and that this resolves either over time or by much increased dosages.
                                          Such a particular groggy feeling of (calm, relaxed) tiredness may thus indeed be a marker of mitochondrial/metabolic healing and a good sign to continue or double-down.

                                          It's astonishing to me that all this info has already been around since the late nineties (in its earliest hints) and confirmed over and over througout the 2000s, 2010s and 2020s. I'm sure there are plenty of people who take >40mg pd melatonin but they are certainly not spread over the publicly accessible internet. Reddit and youtube is filled with bots and naysaying government agents pushing their instructions for obfuscation and scaremongering hogwash. RP's rant on MEL was blatant hogwash. There's a funny comment by someone under the YT video interview with Prof. R Reiter linked above:

                                          Georgi has said melatonin can have a feedback loop and convert back to serotonin. (Maybe that's what put Mercola off from taking it.) .....I wrote to Russell about that and he said, "That's incorrect. Georgi doesn't know what he's talking about." He also asked me for Georgi's contact details.

                                          Duh. Higher-dose MEL hasn't even been embraced by the CFS folks on the phoenixrising forums. It's like we're all being deliberately guided to being both forcedly and voluntarily blind and deaf-mute. I certainly feel like I have been kept stupid and sent around in circles always away from crucial keystones.

                                          My stack for mitochondrial fusion (PGC-1α, Opa1, Mfn1/2) and against excessive fission (Drp1 or most crucially Fis1) also includes echinacoside 220mg pd (from Cistanche tubulosa extract), kaempferol 25mg pd (from Kaempferia galanga extract), trans-resveratrol 500mg pd and SS-31 in yet to be determined doses (0.5-10mg pd probably; will start with 2mg pd). Also expecting delivery of Gastrodia elata rhizomes for the gastrodin as their active ingredient – the traditional Korean/Chinese way is to boil the root or its powder over 15mins and consume it as a brew/tea. And there's more research to find and dissect about morin.

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                                            @CrumblingCookie nice…

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