Seidigestan / Utrogestan. OTC Progesterone contains Titanium Dioxide
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@happycat Great idea bro
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@happycat said in Seidigestan / Utrogestan. OTC Progesterone contains Titanium Dioxide:
@CO3 yes I used Onas progesterone oil and it's good. The problem with it is that is almost always out of stock and it has a huge amount of vitamin E in it.
Regarding the Seidigestan/Utrogestan, you can avoid the titanium dioxide easily, as it is only in the capsule shell, just put a hole in the capsule and use the contents. It still leaves the issue with soy or peanut oil, but its a tiny amlunt, the benefits outweigh the downside.
wrong.
the substance is white. titanium dioxide is a whitener.there is no other whitening agent and the shell is simply gelatin (here at least).
also why it tastes like sunscreen lol. i boight them hoping the titanium was used like that but should have known it wasn't since gelatin capsules are already shiny and easy to swallow.
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@alfredoolivas
Each capsule contains 100mg progesterone. The other ingredients are sunflower oil and soybean lecithin (E322). The other ingredients in the capsule shell are gelatin (E441), glycerol (E442), titanium dioxide (E171) and purified water. -
@happycat So you're bringing up a bad translation or a misinformed description as proof against my assessment, which is in turn based on physical reality.
Please tell me, how do they make the liquid inside white? Use your brain, man.
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@CO3 And how do you know that pure, unmixed micronised progesterone isn't white?
I mean, it could be white. I have no idea. If it is white, someone might have thought it wouldn't look nice in a transparent capsule. Remember, women only let nice things into their vaginas
I agree with @happycat that the titanium seems to be in the capsule only.
From the Seidigestan leaflet:
Lista de excipientes: Aceite de girasol, Lecitina de soja, Gelatina, Glicerol (E 422), Dióxido de titanio (E 171), Agua purificada
https://cima.aemps.es/cima/dochtml/ft/60814/FT_60814.html#6From the Utrogestan leaflet:
What Utrogestan 100mg Capsules contain
• The active substance is progesterone. Each capsule contains 100mg progesterone.
• The other ingredients are sunflower oil and soybean lecithin (E322). The other ingredients in the capsule shell are gelatin (E441), glycerol (E442), titanium dioxide (E171) and purified water.
https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/352/By the way @happycat, I do exactly the same thing as you. I poke a hole and squeeze out the contents. If there's any residue, I chew the capsule lightly with my teeth and spit the rest of the capsule out. I end up applying it to my gums anyway, after mixing it with Vitamin E powder and coconut oil.
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why dont you niggas just buy progest e , haiduts progesterone, or buy some powder progesterone and mix it into some olive oil (from a reputable source) lol
edit oh nvm first line in OPs post xDDD
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@sushi_is_cringe
I get Utrogestan free on prescription in my country and the Seidigestan or similar is only about 6 euro for a box of 30x100mg. I find it very effective.@Ena super
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@happycat It's super expensive here w/o prescription. Abpout 47 euros for a big box. Theoretically it should be worth it since the amount is so much higher than Progest-E but it's a lot less effective. Maybe I should add a lot of vitamin E.
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@Ena said in Seidigestan / Utrogestan. OTC Progesterone contains Titanium Dioxide:
how do you know that pure, unmixed micronised progesterone isn't white?
IDK by looking at Progest-E? It's not opaque at all... especially not white... so simple....
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@Ena Sugar is also white.... but when you dissolve it in water, the solution isn't white is it.... the same thing applies to progesterone.
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@sushi_is_cringe @CO3 IdeaLabs has a really good success rate with delivering their products - their progesterone product is a white 15ml bottle, and it gets through customs and air port security every time; even when there is 6 different bottles in the package / carry on luggage.
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The progesterone in Seidigestan/Utrogestan isn't chalky white but still white. Whiter that sugar dissolved in water.
I have deduced from other comments that Progest-E contains vitamin E, so it is not pure progesterone. The fact that Progest-E has a colour cannot be used to guess the colour of pure progesterone. For example, my own vitamin E powder is very yellow.
Unfortunately, I don't have the opportunity to travel to the US and buy Progest-E.
But I do have the opportunity to write to the Utrogestan supplier and ask. It's too bad they don't clearly describe whether the additives are in the capsule or in the contents.
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@Ena I have made Progest E before, and the colour of the vitamin E doesn't change when you dissolve the white progesterone inside it.
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@alfredoolivas Sounds absolutely logical.
The reason I mention colours at all is because @CO3 keeps using the colour difference between Utrogestan and Progest-E as proof that Utrogestan contains titanium.
And I don't think that's proof. Maybe true, but not proof.
Not a big deal, but @CO3 has asked us to use our brains, and then mine started warming up. Sorry about that
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I agree with the previous posters who said the white content is not titanium dioxide, but the micellarized, "micronized" phospholipids and sunflower oil. Think of the white color as tiny micrometer-sized fatty droplets.
Which is disgusting enough on its own, yes, and tastes unpleasant. But it's a small amount and best to be taken with some proper saturated fat so that a balanced ratio makes it more alright.
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I have the label right in front of me. it does not mention anything about the titanium being in the capsule. It's quite literally a whitening agent in tons of products, and none of the other ingredients are whitening agents.
What's with this unstoppable desire to cope so blatantly?
