Why do you believe in God?
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@Norwegian-Mugabe I'm going full elementary question, what meaning do you personally give to the word "god", what characteristics do you associate with it?
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@Truth What we can know from the arguments posted earlier in this thread, is that someone or something created the universe (God). God is also the greatest possible being. I think that much of God's other properties are speculation. Some guesses are better than others, but there are certain things that it seems like we are unable to get answer to by reason alone.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe What do you mean by "greatest possible being", in terms of size, in terms of the value you personally give to it?
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@Truth God is the greatest being in terms of abilities and influence.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe Are there any specific reasons why you perceive it as external to us, rather than partly within us or totally within us?
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@Truth Yes the arguments posted earlier shows that the Universe was created contigently. See the following arguments: Kalam's cosmological argument, Aquinas Argument from Necessity , and Leibniz’ Contingency Argument.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe in this thought, do they imply or do you imply that this thing, is a being,(Being often has a personifying connotation), and potentially assumes that this "being" has intentions?
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@Truth None of those three agruments imply intentions, but some arguments for God's existence do imply intetion. I thnik for instace, that all forms of The Mozart Argument imply that God values beauty. It might be possible to argue that you can infer intention from Anselm of Canterbury's argument too.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe No distinction between a being and a thing (such as a stone) in this argument? If there is, what contributes to the perception of "god" as a "being" rather than a thing (such as a stone) in this idea?
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@Truth again the arugments differ on this. Kalam's argument does not say what kind of being/force it would be that created the universe. Anselm of Canterbury's argument certainly states that God must be the greatest possible being.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe Which of these two is part of your idea of "god"?
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@Truth Both of these arguments are valid arguments for God. Kalam's argument is perhaps the greatest argument of all, but this argument does not state much about the kind of being God is.
If you truly want spiritual wholeness and develop a deep relationship with God, then I reccomend spending time hiking in nature. If you sit in silence in nature you will feel in your gut what purpose you should take on. I also reccomend to train yourself to be a lover of beauty. Listen to classical music and make your surrondings as beautiful as possible.Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.
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@zawisza Lolol, it doesn't matter if we're not on reddit, or if my name is Truth instead of socrates
I'll keep asking elementary questions, Even if you please me not to
According to you it's obvious, keep reading and you'll potentially realize that there are aspects and nuances of his idea of "god" that aren't necessarily mentioned or explained in the initial post
Lolol it's you who comes across as a fanatical buffoon who tries to label people who ask questions about "god" as "heretics"
I don't care about "Christian theology" and "saints", I ask the questions to the guy who made the post
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From my experience, I suggest that "god" in the majority of cases is a feeling and/or feelings associated with ideas,
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the more we feel united with everything, the more we feel united with "god", or even that this unity we feel within us, and of which we are a part, is "god" or "divine" energy, to the point where we no longer perceive it as something "greater" or external to usWe can also experience a certain degree of masculine energy, which is associated with a high enough degree of sovereignty, fertility, power, free of any negative emotions, where we feel we embody the energy of life creation, we no longer think of all the potentially sub-optimal ideas associated with "god" that arouse suboptimal emotions, we no longer think of "god",
we feel that we are "god" (in this second state, the feeling of "divine" energy is felt individually, rather than as part of everything)
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@Truth you touch on Schopenhauer's view of objectivity nullifying the burden of the will, and Nietzsche's idea of will to power. Both ideas hold truths, but neither give an explanation of the universe. I think many people seek God to explain why the universe exists, rather than to seek God to live better. Your views are similar to Oneness Pentecostalism, exepct maybe you aren't a Christian? I think of us as an extention of God.
I think you are wrong regarding the ideas part. Yes you can reason yourelf to a closer relationship with God, but sensus divinitatis tends to come from transcendental momements of beauty and ovebecoming.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe I'm not a "Christian",
I wasn't implying that reasoning can lead us to a higher degree of feeling oneness with "god" or of being "god", I was simply saying that in the majority of cases (of people I've observed) belief in "god" is associated with sub-optimal ideas, which arouse negative emotions
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@Truth I would think that the ultimate sub-optimal belief is to not have answers to the most fundamental questions about being.
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@Norwegian-Mugabe From my experience, I suggest that what matters most is that we reach the highest degree of energy and well being ourselves and potentially the greatest number of people, are these questions about existence associated with a higher degree of well being in the majority of cases, from my experience it is not
Is it necessary to ask these questions in order to reach the highest degree of energy and well-being, in my experience it isn't, and tending to the highest degree of energy and well-being can commonly be associated with a cessation of these questions about existence
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