Dandruff or scalp irritation? Try BLOO.

  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
  • Register
  • Login
Bioenergetic Forum
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Groups
  • Register
  • Login

Why do you believe in God?

The Junkyard
18
57
3.0k
Loading More Posts
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • ?
    A Former User
    last edited by A Former User Feb 1, 2024, 7:28 PM Feb 1, 2024, 7:28 PM

    Hi, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2CuAVAERjs funny short on "god"

    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
    • N
      Norwegian Mugabe @bruh
      last edited by Feb 2, 2024, 5:08 AM

      @bruh you have faith in what you know. The deeper you get to know God, the more meaningful your life becomes.

      Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

      Ignore, judge, overcommit.

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • V
        VirtueAgonist
        last edited by Feb 2, 2024, 11:01 AM

        I like Saint Anselm’s that-than-which-nothing-greater-can-be-thought argument. Aristotle, Plotinus, Augustine, and Aquinas are S tier too.

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • N
          Norwegian Mugabe
          last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 6:45 AM

          Leibniz’ Contingency Argument is another argument that seems to be absolutely correct.

          The argument goes like this:

          1. Every contingent fact has an explanation.
          2. There is a contingent fact that includes all other contingent facts.
          3. Therefore, there is an explanation of this fact.
          4. This explanation must involve a necessary being.
          5. This necessary being is God.

          Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

          Ignore, judge, overcommit.

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • ?
            A Former User @Norwegian Mugabe
            last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 10:01 AM

            @Norwegian-Mugabe Hi, what do you mean by "god"?

            K N 2 Replies Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 10:22 AM Reply Quote 0
            • K
              Kvirion @A Former User
              last edited by Kvirion Feb 10, 2024, 10:31 AM Feb 10, 2024, 10:22 AM

              There can be a pantheistic god... Or maybe not...
              A theistic god is rather just a fairytale to keep normies behaving in order (keep their heads down)...

              A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
              Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
              There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
              And drinking largely sobers us again.
              ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • N
                Norwegian Mugabe @A Former User
                last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 12:00 PM

                @Truth Lol, don't go full Juden Peterstein on me. If you see the video I just posted which explains the contingency argument, you will find a good definition of god at the end of the video.

                Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                Ignore, judge, overcommit.

                ? 1 Reply Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 12:09 PM Reply Quote 0
                • ?
                  A Former User @Norwegian Mugabe
                  last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 12:09 PM

                  @Norwegian-Mugabe I'm going full elementary question, what meaning do you personally give to the word "god", what characteristics do you associate with it?

                  N Z 2 Replies Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 12:15 PM Reply Quote 0
                  • N
                    Norwegian Mugabe @A Former User
                    last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 12:15 PM

                    @Truth What we can know from the arguments posted earlier in this thread, is that someone or something created the universe (God). God is also the greatest possible being. I think that much of God's other properties are speculation. Some guesses are better than others, but there are certain things that it seems like we are unable to get answer to by reason alone.

                    Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                    Ignore, judge, overcommit.

                    ? 1 Reply Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 12:17 PM Reply Quote 0
                    • ?
                      A Former User @Norwegian Mugabe
                      last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 12:17 PM

                      @Norwegian-Mugabe What do you mean by "greatest possible being", in terms of size, in terms of the value you personally give to it?

                      N 1 Reply Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 12:19 PM Reply Quote 0
                      • N
                        Norwegian Mugabe @A Former User
                        last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 12:19 PM

                        @Truth God is the greatest being in terms of abilities and influence.

                        Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                        Ignore, judge, overcommit.

                        ? 1 Reply Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 12:23 PM Reply Quote 0
                        • ?
                          A Former User @Norwegian Mugabe
                          last edited by A Former User Feb 10, 2024, 12:25 PM Feb 10, 2024, 12:23 PM

                          @Norwegian-Mugabe Are there any specific reasons why you perceive it as external to us, rather than partly within us or totally within us?

                          N 1 Reply Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 12:27 PM Reply Quote 0
                          • N
                            Norwegian Mugabe @A Former User
                            last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 12:27 PM

                            @Truth Yes the arguments posted earlier shows that the Universe was created contigently. See the following arguments: Kalam's cosmological argument, Aquinas Argument from Necessity , and Leibniz’ Contingency Argument.

                            Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                            Ignore, judge, overcommit.

                            ? 1 Reply Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 12:41 PM Reply Quote 0
                            • ?
                              A Former User @Norwegian Mugabe
                              last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 12:41 PM

                              @Norwegian-Mugabe in this thought, do they imply or do you imply that this thing, is a being,(Being often has a personifying connotation), and potentially assumes that this "being" has intentions?

                              N 1 Reply Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 12:50 PM Reply Quote 0
                              • N
                                Norwegian Mugabe @A Former User
                                last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 12:50 PM

                                @Truth None of those three agruments imply intentions, but some arguments for God's existence do imply intetion. I thnik for instace, that all forms of The Mozart Argument imply that God values beauty. It might be possible to argue that you can infer intention from Anselm of Canterbury's argument too.

                                Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                                Ignore, judge, overcommit.

                                ? 1 Reply Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 12:55 PM Reply Quote 0
                                • ?
                                  A Former User @Norwegian Mugabe
                                  last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 12:55 PM

                                  @Norwegian-Mugabe No distinction between a being and a thing (such as a stone) in this argument? If there is, what contributes to the perception of "god" as a "being" rather than a thing (such as a stone) in this idea?

                                  N 1 Reply Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 12:59 PM Reply Quote 0
                                  • N
                                    Norwegian Mugabe @A Former User
                                    last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 12:59 PM

                                    @Truth again the arugments differ on this. Kalam's argument does not say what kind of being/force it would be that created the universe. Anselm of Canterbury's argument certainly states that God must be the greatest possible being.

                                    Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                                    Ignore, judge, overcommit.

                                    ? 1 Reply Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 1:05 PM Reply Quote 0
                                    • ?
                                      A Former User @Norwegian Mugabe
                                      last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 1:05 PM

                                      @Norwegian-Mugabe Which of these two is part of your idea of "god"?

                                      N 1 Reply Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 1:14 PM Reply Quote 0
                                      • Z
                                        zawisza @A Former User
                                        last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 1:10 PM

                                        This post is deleted!
                                        ? 1 Reply Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 1:24 PM Reply Quote 0
                                        • N
                                          Norwegian Mugabe @A Former User
                                          last edited by Feb 10, 2024, 1:14 PM

                                          @Truth Both of these arguments are valid arguments for God. Kalam's argument is perhaps the greatest argument of all, but this argument does not state much about the kind of being God is.
                                          If you truly want spiritual wholeness and develop a deep relationship with God, then I reccomend spending time hiking in nature. If you sit in silence in nature you will feel in your gut what purpose you should take on. I also reccomend to train yourself to be a lover of beauty. Listen to classical music and make your surrondings as beautiful as possible.

                                          Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                                          Ignore, judge, overcommit.

                                          ? 1 Reply Last reply Feb 10, 2024, 2:02 PM Reply Quote 0
                                          • 1
                                          • 2
                                          • 3
                                          • 2 / 3
                                          2 / 3
                                          • First post
                                            32/57
                                            Last post