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    Why do you believe in God?

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    • bruhB
      bruh
      last edited by

      Isn't trying to prove God's existen missing the point? You're supposed to have faith in him.

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      • P
        Peatful
        last edited by

        I don’t “believe in”

        Meaning
        I don’t believe in my mother
        I know my mother

        I don’t believe in God
        I know Him

        The further society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.

        SD

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        • TruthT
          Truth
          last edited by Truth

          Hi, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2CuAVAERjs funny short on "god"

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          • Norwegian MugabeN
            Norwegian Mugabe @bruh
            last edited by

            @bruh you have faith in what you know. The deeper you get to know God, the more meaningful your life becomes.

            Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

            Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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            • VirtueAgonistV
              VirtueAgonist
              last edited by

              I like Saint Anselm’s that-than-which-nothing-greater-can-be-thought argument. Aristotle, Plotinus, Augustine, and Aquinas are S tier too.

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              • Norwegian MugabeN
                Norwegian Mugabe
                last edited by

                Leibniz’ Contingency Argument is another argument that seems to be absolutely correct.

                The argument goes like this:

                1. Every contingent fact has an explanation.
                2. There is a contingent fact that includes all other contingent facts.
                3. Therefore, there is an explanation of this fact.
                4. This explanation must involve a necessary being.
                5. This necessary being is God.

                Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                • TruthT
                  Truth @Norwegian Mugabe
                  last edited by

                  @Norwegian-Mugabe Hi, what do you mean by "god"?

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                  • KvirionK
                    Kvirion @Truth
                    last edited by Kvirion

                    There can be a pantheistic god... Or maybe not...
                    A theistic god is rather just a fairytale to keep normies behaving in order (keep their heads down)...

                    A little learning is a dangerous thing ;
                    Drink deep, or taste not the Pierian spring :
                    There shallow draughts intoxicate the brain,
                    And drinking largely sobers us again.
                    ~Alexander Pope, An Essay on Criticism

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                    • Norwegian MugabeN
                      Norwegian Mugabe @Truth
                      last edited by

                      @Truth Lol, don't go full Juden Peterstein on me. If you see the video I just posted which explains the contingency argument, you will find a good definition of god at the end of the video.

                      Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                      Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                      • TruthT
                        Truth @Norwegian Mugabe
                        last edited by

                        @Norwegian-Mugabe I'm going full elementary question, what meaning do you personally give to the word "god", what characteristics do you associate with it?

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                        • Norwegian MugabeN
                          Norwegian Mugabe @Truth
                          last edited by

                          @Truth What we can know from the arguments posted earlier in this thread, is that someone or something created the universe (God). God is also the greatest possible being. I think that much of God's other properties are speculation. Some guesses are better than others, but there are certain things that it seems like we are unable to get answer to by reason alone.

                          Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                          Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                          • TruthT
                            Truth @Norwegian Mugabe
                            last edited by

                            @Norwegian-Mugabe What do you mean by "greatest possible being", in terms of size, in terms of the value you personally give to it?

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                            • Norwegian MugabeN
                              Norwegian Mugabe @Truth
                              last edited by

                              @Truth God is the greatest being in terms of abilities and influence.

                              Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                              Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                              • TruthT
                                Truth @Norwegian Mugabe
                                last edited by Truth

                                @Norwegian-Mugabe Are there any specific reasons why you perceive it as external to us, rather than partly within us or totally within us?

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                                • Norwegian MugabeN
                                  Norwegian Mugabe @Truth
                                  last edited by

                                  @Truth Yes the arguments posted earlier shows that the Universe was created contigently. See the following arguments: Kalam's cosmological argument, Aquinas Argument from Necessity , and Leibniz’ Contingency Argument.

                                  Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                                  Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                                  • TruthT
                                    Truth @Norwegian Mugabe
                                    last edited by

                                    @Norwegian-Mugabe in this thought, do they imply or do you imply that this thing, is a being,(Being often has a personifying connotation), and potentially assumes that this "being" has intentions?

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                                    • Norwegian MugabeN
                                      Norwegian Mugabe @Truth
                                      last edited by

                                      @Truth None of those three agruments imply intentions, but some arguments for God's existence do imply intetion. I thnik for instace, that all forms of The Mozart Argument imply that God values beauty. It might be possible to argue that you can infer intention from Anselm of Canterbury's argument too.

                                      Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                                      Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                                      • TruthT
                                        Truth @Norwegian Mugabe
                                        last edited by

                                        @Norwegian-Mugabe No distinction between a being and a thing (such as a stone) in this argument? If there is, what contributes to the perception of "god" as a "being" rather than a thing (such as a stone) in this idea?

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                                        • Norwegian MugabeN
                                          Norwegian Mugabe @Truth
                                          last edited by

                                          @Truth again the arugments differ on this. Kalam's argument does not say what kind of being/force it would be that created the universe. Anselm of Canterbury's argument certainly states that God must be the greatest possible being.

                                          Put yourself on fire for peak energy metabolism.

                                          Ignore, judge, overcommit.

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                                          • TruthT
                                            Truth @Norwegian Mugabe
                                            last edited by

                                            @Norwegian-Mugabe Which of these two is part of your idea of "god"?

                                            Thrive for the highest degree of energy

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