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What causes the pattern? (Male Pattern Baldness Explained)

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    Samyo
    last edited by May 17, 2025, 5:44 PM

    Youtube Video

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      wester130 @Samyo
      last edited by May 17, 2025, 6:00 PM

      @Samyo

      https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/anyone-has-experience-with-the-growband.126943/page-2#post-2109742

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        Gardner
        last edited by Gardner May 17, 2025, 6:44 PM May 17, 2025, 6:39 PM

        Without mentioning Arao-Perkins bodies the story is incomplete ... you can do better.
        In fact massage only increases fifbrosis / collagen sintesis

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          wester130 @Samyo
          last edited by May 17, 2025, 9:27 PM

          @Samyo that pattern is caused by the galea

          https://web.archive.org/web/20120101104329/http://www.worldhairloss.org/index.php/hairloss/page2-featuredcontributors/the_mechanics_of_male_pattern_baldness

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            Samyo @wester130
            last edited by 30 days ago

            @wester130 Youtube Video

            Youtube Video

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              wester130 @Samyo
              last edited by 30 days ago

              @Samyo

              thankfully you can get a growband for 20 dollars

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                Samyo @wester130
                last edited by 29 days ago

                @wester130 Where from?

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                  wester130 @Samyo
                  last edited by 29 days ago

                  @Samyo

                  https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/walgreens-sell-the-hairguard-growband-for-20-dollars.139513/

                  https://www.hairlosstalk.com/interact/threads/the-eternal-male-pattern-baldness-mistery-solved.122305/page-4#post-2109741

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                    Gaston
                    last edited by 28 days ago

                    I'm ready to go down the tight galea rabbit hole, but I'm not putting an electrical device on my head, and I'm not injecting botox.

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                      Mossy @wester130
                      last edited by 28 days ago

                      @wester130

                      I was reminded by one of those threads you link, of the idea that standing on one's head seems to be closely linked to massage and the tight galea theory. I am objective and open minded when it comes to any theory for hair loss, so I'm not a naysayer or against this theory, but I'm not certain it's a one-size-fits-all. I shared this on RPF, some years back, but my father who practiced yoga, did head stands for years, decades — 30+ years, and it did zero for his hair loss. As I've mentioned, I don't bring this up to be combative against this theory, but to offer a real-world, anecdotal experience to show that for some it may be more complicated.

                      "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                      "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                        wester130 @Mossy
                        last edited by wester130 28 days ago 28 days ago

                        @Mossy headstands are not the same as massage

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                          Mossy @wester130
                          last edited by 27 days ago

                          @wester130 said in What causes the pattern? (Male Pattern Baldness Explained):

                          @Mossy headstands are not the same as massage

                          Ok, I can see that, there's a clear difference between the two. I had just assumed they were both used by some to fight against tight galea. Maybe the head stands are just for blood flow.

                          "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                          "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                            Samyo @Mossy
                            last edited by 27 days ago

                            @Mossy said in What causes the pattern? (Male Pattern Baldness Explained):

                            Ok, I can see that, there's a clear difference between the two. I had just assumed they were both used by some to fight against tight galea. Maybe the head stands are just for blood flow.

                            A general decompression of the body..

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                              Mossy @Samyo
                              last edited by Mossy 26 days ago 26 days ago

                              @Samyo That makes sense. I do get that sensation when I do head stands or shoulder stands.

                              "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                              "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                                DKJoeAgain @Mossy
                                last edited by 26 days ago

                                @Mossy yeah this seems to swing around from time to time, to add to this the only person I've seen online who has had personal success with this did head massages for months and also got huge amounts of sun in this time. My theory would be that the massage route will only work if calcium channels are also robust and going in the right direction (proper fat soluble vitamin balance) considering the calcium sheet which fuses to the skull most probably causes the tight galia in the first place through screwed up PTH this would need to be addressed beforehand, otherwise massage is most probably not enough.

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                                  wester130 @DKJoeAgain
                                  last edited by 26 days ago

                                  @DKJoeAgain

                                  no one has the patience or perseverance to do head massges

                                  just buy the cheap growband

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                                    Mossy @DKJoeAgain
                                    last edited by 25 days ago

                                    @DKJoeAgain I'm not against the idea that it could be beneficial for some, but that it's only part of the puzzle.

                                    "To desire action is to desire limitation" — G. K. Chesterton
                                    "The true step of health and improvement is slow." — Novalis

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                                      DKJoeAgain @wester130
                                      last edited by DKJoeAgain 25 days ago 25 days ago

                                      @wester130 I've had one for years now...you miss my point, most likely neither are gonna do shit in isolation. But by all means go for it, as mossy has said though it is a minor piece in a major puzzle.

                                      Edited to mention I have a cheap growband.

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                                        Hearthfire
                                        last edited by 24 days ago

                                        I've seen some pretty crazy results with head massage on Perfect Hair Health website, I dunno. It definitely works, but the results pairing it with other things are usually better.

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