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      sunsunsun @Samyo
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      @Samyo did this all begin after wuflu?

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        Samyo @sunsunsun
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        @sunsunsun some it and some of it no

        also unvaxed

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          LetTheRedeemed @Samyo
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          @Samyo long term use? I have to push back and say a whole bottle will make you feel something, conversely it can take a year plus of optimal dosage of t3 before there is improvement.

          With the symptoms as you're describing, it's impossible for the liver to be in good condition.

          You can also work up to high dose aspirin for prolonged periods (with necessary cofactors glycine and especially k4)

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            Samyo @LetTheRedeemed
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            @LetTheRedeemed said in Suffering, getting worse:

            with necessary cofactors glycine and especia

            Whats is hurting my liver in the peat recommended foods? I have no idea

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              LetTheRedeemed @Samyo
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              @Samyo i don’t know, but it could be environment (lack of sleep, lack of sunshine, high emf exposure, etc). It could be overconsumption of fat. T3 and progest-e are the best liver healers.

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                16characterstwas
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                How about trying an elimination diet? for example at first just fresh squeezed orange juice and cheddar cheese, then gradually adding other foods every few days.

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                  Samyo
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                  I need a way to induce diarrhea clear my gut out

                  Anyone know what i can do besides high dose magnesium/baking soda/ salt ?

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                    ThinPicking
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                    Good angles in here. Ignore this one if it's confusing.

                    @Samyo said in Suffering, getting worse:

                    Been peating for 8 years now

                    Stable/good times in there somewhere?

                    @Samyo said in Suffering, getting worse:

                    some it and some of it no

                    Can you be more specific?

                    @LetTheRedeemed said in Suffering, getting worse:

                    it could be environment

                    There's an inner one too.

                    @bot-mod said in Why didn't Peating™ work for Charlie of the Ray Peat Forum dot com?:

                    TCM has interesting things to say about the relationship between our organs.

                    Samyo, maybe you should deactivate the twitter account you've been reposting material from and stop worrying about someone elses idea of tomorrow. They probably need you to write it anyway.

                    This isn't that woo really. You need to be present in the present to self percieve and act appropriately.

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                      GreekDemiGod
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                      Forget thyroid. You need to focus strictly on gut health. Microbiome stool test, parasites tests. Taking thyroid and pro hormones rarely healed anyone with several intestinal dysbiosis.

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                        heyman @GreekDemiGod
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                        @GreekDemiGod How would you solve it? Cascara? Doxy? Charcoal?

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                          Samyo @GreekDemiGod
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                          @GreekDemiGod what else is there outside of magnesium, cascara, ox bile, activated charcoal, milk of magnesia, B1, HCL, carrot salad, mushrooms, bamboo shoots?

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                            LetTheRedeemed @Samyo
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                            @Samyo antibiotics

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                              LetTheRedeemed @ThinPicking
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                              @ThinPicking

                              it could be environment

                              There's an inner one too.

                              I had very terrible digestive problems come and go that nothing has fixed but resolving inner turmoil over regret and self hatred.

                              I think some research has shown that there is no cure for ulcers when there is emotional stress.

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                                LetTheRedeemed @GreekDemiGod
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                                @GreekDemiGod i’ve found it to be a synergistic problem where often carrot isnt good enough alone, or healing liver isnt good enough alone, etc. what im saying is that you want thyroid-induced gut motility while also using intestinal cleaners.

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                                  16characterstwas @Samyo
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                                  @Samyo @LetTheRedeemed i second the antibiotic/s
                                  Erythromycin or a tetracycline if possible

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                                    LetTheRedeemed @LetTheRedeemed
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                                    Danny’s list of safe antibiotics, try them all (full two week, titrate down after first 4 days at full dose):

                                    penicillin VK combine with macrolide
                                    erythromycin
                                    Clarithromycin - macrolide
                                    neomycin
                                    Azithromycin - macrolide
                                    Tetracycline - combine with macrolide
                                    Doxycyline - combine with macrolide

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                                      heyman @LetTheRedeemed
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                                      @LetTheRedeemed What is macrolide?

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                                        GlucoseGal
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                                        Personally I would try a GAPS style broth diet for some time. Eating for every meal a bone broth with onions, carrots & zucchini. It sounds like you need to heal your gut! Then you add in meat to the broth & cooked fruit after a week or two to your diet. After that you can try adding in dairy with probiotics, like strained Greek yoghurt. I’ve done this several times and it is very healing. Eventually you’ll be healed enough to add in starches like cooked potato if you want.

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                                          LetTheRedeemed @heyman
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                                          @heyman a class of antibiotics

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                                            GreekDemiGod @LetTheRedeemed
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                                            @LetTheRedeemed Healing the gut is not about eating the carrot salad, it's much more complex than that.
                                            Personally, I wish I didn't waste years applying advice from the forum, and instead, would have been better seeking a good doctor, coach or practitioner that can come up with an elaborate strategy. Also, I should have done complete investigations much sooner: blood tests, microbiome stool test, dysbiosis analysis, histamine tests.

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