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      LetTheRedeemed @Samyo
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      @Samyo long term use? I have to push back and say a whole bottle will make you feel something, conversely it can take a year plus of optimal dosage of t3 before there is improvement.

      With the symptoms as you're describing, it's impossible for the liver to be in good condition.

      You can also work up to high dose aspirin for prolonged periods (with necessary cofactors glycine and especially k4)

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        Samyo @LetTheRedeemed
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        @LetTheRedeemed said in Suffering, getting worse:

        with necessary cofactors glycine and especia

        Whats is hurting my liver in the peat recommended foods? I have no idea

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          LetTheRedeemed @Samyo
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          @Samyo i don’t know, but it could be environment (lack of sleep, lack of sunshine, high emf exposure, etc). It could be overconsumption of fat. T3 and progest-e are the best liver healers.

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            16characterstwas
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            How about trying an elimination diet? for example at first just fresh squeezed orange juice and cheddar cheese, then gradually adding other foods every few days.

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              Samyo
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              I need a way to induce diarrhea clear my gut out

              Anyone know what i can do besides high dose magnesium/baking soda/ salt ?

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                ThinPicking
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                Good angles in here. Ignore this one if it's confusing.

                @Samyo said in Suffering, getting worse:

                Been peating for 8 years now

                Stable/good times in there somewhere?

                @Samyo said in Suffering, getting worse:

                some it and some of it no

                Can you be more specific?

                @LetTheRedeemed said in Suffering, getting worse:

                it could be environment

                There's an inner one too.

                @bot-mod said in Why didn't Peating™ work for Charlie of the Ray Peat Forum dot com?:

                TCM has interesting things to say about the relationship between our organs.

                Samyo, maybe you should deactivate the twitter account you've been reposting material from and stop worrying about someone elses idea of tomorrow. They probably need you to write it anyway.

                This isn't that woo really. You need to be present in the present to self percieve and act appropriately.

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                  GreekDemiGod
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                  Forget thyroid. You need to focus strictly on gut health. Microbiome stool test, parasites tests. Taking thyroid and pro hormones rarely healed anyone with several intestinal dysbiosis.

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                    heyman @GreekDemiGod
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                    @GreekDemiGod How would you solve it? Cascara? Doxy? Charcoal?

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                      Samyo @GreekDemiGod
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                      @GreekDemiGod what else is there outside of magnesium, cascara, ox bile, activated charcoal, milk of magnesia, B1, HCL, carrot salad, mushrooms, bamboo shoots?

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                        LetTheRedeemed @Samyo
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                        @Samyo antibiotics

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                          LetTheRedeemed @ThinPicking
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                          @ThinPicking

                          it could be environment

                          There's an inner one too.

                          I had very terrible digestive problems come and go that nothing has fixed but resolving inner turmoil over regret and self hatred.

                          I think some research has shown that there is no cure for ulcers when there is emotional stress.

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                            LetTheRedeemed @GreekDemiGod
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                            @GreekDemiGod i’ve found it to be a synergistic problem where often carrot isnt good enough alone, or healing liver isnt good enough alone, etc. what im saying is that you want thyroid-induced gut motility while also using intestinal cleaners.

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                              16characterstwas @Samyo
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                              @Samyo @LetTheRedeemed i second the antibiotic/s
                              Erythromycin or a tetracycline if possible

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                                LetTheRedeemed @LetTheRedeemed
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                                Danny’s list of safe antibiotics, try them all (full two week, titrate down after first 4 days at full dose):

                                penicillin VK combine with macrolide
                                erythromycin
                                Clarithromycin - macrolide
                                neomycin
                                Azithromycin - macrolide
                                Tetracycline - combine with macrolide
                                Doxycyline - combine with macrolide

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                                  heyman @LetTheRedeemed
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                                  @LetTheRedeemed What is macrolide?

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                                    GlucoseGal
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                                    Personally I would try a GAPS style broth diet for some time. Eating for every meal a bone broth with onions, carrots & zucchini. It sounds like you need to heal your gut! Then you add in meat to the broth & cooked fruit after a week or two to your diet. After that you can try adding in dairy with probiotics, like strained Greek yoghurt. I’ve done this several times and it is very healing. Eventually you’ll be healed enough to add in starches like cooked potato if you want.

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                                      LetTheRedeemed @heyman
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                                      @heyman a class of antibiotics

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                                        GreekDemiGod @LetTheRedeemed
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                                        @LetTheRedeemed Healing the gut is not about eating the carrot salad, it's much more complex than that.
                                        Personally, I wish I didn't waste years applying advice from the forum, and instead, would have been better seeking a good doctor, coach or practitioner that can come up with an elaborate strategy. Also, I should have done complete investigations much sooner: blood tests, microbiome stool test, dysbiosis analysis, histamine tests.

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                                          Samyo @GlucoseGal
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                                          @GlucoseGal said in Suffering, getting worse:

                                          zucchini

                                          Onion carrots and zucchini contain fiber... they would make my skin red and dry

                                          Just like I had mushrooms last night. Have dry skin now, Ill rub the redness and dead skin will appear

                                          Still waiting for the bowel movement from them 24 hours later

                                          Had 1.2g of magnesium oxide last night before bed too
                                          and like 5 spoonsfuls of milk of magnesia

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                                            GlucoseGal @Samyo
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                                            @Samyo The GAPS diet protocol can be as barebones as you need it to be. You can make a broth with beef bones or chicken bones, onions & garlic - then remove them post cooking. The gut lining renews after three days. You should be able to gently add in certain foods after a week or so.

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