New "Mission" of RPF
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@ilovethesea Progesterone toxicity. This guy ***** ** ***
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This one is definitely my favorite. The guy looks like a fucking corpse with a severe allergic reaction, and has less hair than Peat at 85, yet he uses his physical appearance to taunt people like a retarded 12 year old.
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So I guess we can add delusional egomania to the list of pathologies acquired by restricting retinol.
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@Kvothe Peat never had to insult people to make himself look better, this is just pathetic. Why would anyone take advice from a guy with the emotional control of a toddler that thinks insults somehow make his argument better.
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Lately I've been questioning the origins of "Charlie" and the forum in the first place. I probably got linked by a FB group to the forum, but whoever started the forum wasn't anybody that I was aware of at the time, and I was pretty much searching around for more information, discussion groups and context of Ray Peat after reading a few of his articles online. I guess 'Charlie' could have been on Reddit or some other group if there was such a thing at the time (I don't remember), as he must have interacted or at least read somewhere to even know that there would be an interest in starting a forum discussing RP's work, which he apparently established anonymously and used a pseudonym for his online owner/moderator name, not suspect at all...
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The latest villain, coconut oil...
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Yes, and my sincere apologies if this is a real person, but I have become aware of interacting with AI on Twitter online which seems genuine but gives subtle clues. As the technology improves we may not be able tell the diffrerence, and part of the scam is establishing a seemingly legitimate online history in order to give the appearance of authenticity. I'm always skeptical in these conversion stories where people have suddenly seen the light or purportedly suddenly realized they've taken the wrong path, especially as it relates to established and credible sources like Ray Peat vs these charlatans that appear on the scene with the solutions to chronic problems which people are desperate to solve.
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@ilovethesea This saga of Garett Smith on Twitter and RPF Forum deliberate misinformation is more duplicitous than I expected. And to think Ray Peat expressed his disdain in 2018, which means he was aware of it even earlier (possibly even for years). It seems clear to me that 'Charlie' is well-aware and intentional in his monetary appropriation and slander of Ray Peat, and the apparent motivation is that he is underhandingly receiving money from Garrett Smith or at least signalling his intention to alliance with him like a sycophant.
In any case, none of this "Vitamin A" discussion is about health, medicine or nutrition (or God!) but is a marketing ploy to sell clients to Garrett Smith. It's just a business scheme, and a kind of fraud upon the principles which Ray Peat stood for.
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@C-Mex said in New "Mission" of RPF:
The latest villain, coconut oil...
I was banned for reply on that post
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If this wasn’t so ill
It would be funnySo
OBviOuShttps://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/emf-protection.52726/
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@jwayne said in New "Mission" of RPF:
@ilovethesea This saga of Garett Smith on Twitter and RPF Forum deliberate misinformation is more duplicitous than I expected. And to think Ray Peat expressed his disdain in 2018, which means he was aware of it even earlier (possibly even for years). It seems clear to me that 'Charlie' is well-aware and intentional in his monetary appropriation and slander of Ray Peat, and the apparent motivation is that he is underhandingly receiving money from Garrett Smith or at least signalling his intention to alliance with him like a sycophant.
In any case, none of this "Vitamin A" discussion is about health, medicine or nutrition (or God!) but is a marketing ploy to sell clients to Garrett Smith. It's just a business scheme, and a kind of fraud upon the principles which Ray Peat stood for.
Breath of fresh air I needed this morning
Bless you
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@Peatful It's over. The "forum" is now a recruitment board for getting Garrett Smith clients. Toxic Bile Theory is just a keyword for advertising to make sales. There's no science to it that's why they lean heavily on religious expressions for their argument (e.g. "It is Written"). The intention is to just farm traffic with annoying headlines and lazy posts that aren't even written coherently. They will continue with "Gotcha!" studies to keep pushing for business leads and continue banning anyone who frustrates them with valid inquiry or points out the obvious subterfuge.
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@jwayne correct
It’s so clear
So clearBut
What can realistically be done about it?I guess those still active there
(Those that aren’t burner accounts)
Are the folks that polled in saying they thought the vaxxxine was to help people?https://raypeatforum.com/community/threads/the-real-vax-reason-cast-your-vote.41787/
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The way Smith writes it's very clear that he is quite good at self-promotion, and uses the classic "copywriting" format: short sentences, simple words, many newlines, attention-grabbing, emotional baiting etc...But on the scientific front, he is an abject and disgraceful failure. No one should heed his advice.
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@jwayne Flying monkeys usually get hung out to dry.
I don't see how Charlie "wins" anything in the end.
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@Regina It appears that what Charlie gets out of it is customers. It's the old bait and switch. "All you need to do is avoid A and all your problems magically disappear." Once you're sold on "A is a poison" it's "Oh, btw, you also need several minerals, niacin, and fiber, etc., which you may conveniently purchase from my online store." I have no problem with anyone selling health products (I buy some from Georgi/Idealabs) but the way he is going about this just seems so unethical.
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@Kvothe He's going insane.
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@TheSir so Charlie started following Garrett in 2022, the exact year that Garrett began his anti Ray Peat attack... interesting.
So is Charlie just a gullible orthorexic that succumbed to Garrett’s aggressive anti-Peat marketing tactics as well his dogwhistling “fellow Christians” and “Bill Gates is trying to kill us” angles?
Or did Charlie get an offer he couldn’t refuse in exchange for promoting Garrett’s ideology?
To me Garrett is the most suspicious character and may be controlled. He’s advocating for a prison diet (rice and beans), and calls vitamin A and progesterone toxic, vitamin D “rat poison” and T3 dangerous.
Also the whole thing about “getting people off thyroid medication” by fixing their liver. Is that really the case though? Keeping the population hypothyroid and reducing access to thyroid medicine is in the best interests of the ruling class.
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@C-Mex does anyone know if charlie ever talked about struggling with the Ray Peat way prior to 2022? I can’t find it now but I know he said something recently about it ruining his teeth. Here he says it was “killing him” to the point he went fruitarian before finding Garrett. Was this ever mentioned before?
Also interesting he had to “destroy $50k worth of stock” from his store when he saw the light and realized Garrett Smith was the answer. If true, then he makes a lot more from Life giving store than I thought. What business owner would willingly destroy stock unless they knew they had another source of income coming in to replace it?
