Haidut is poisoning our balls with dogshit solvents?! these solvents instead mog? find out in the next episode of dragonball Z
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Yea so basically I've tried appying pregnenolone on my balls bcus it converts into androgens, since it works as the ultimate precursor material.When ur balls try to produce androgens, they prefer going through something called the"backdoor androgen pathway" link text instead of the traditional "frontdoor pathway" where the latter converts into DHEA and testosterone and the first bypasses any aromatize:able androgens (remember this detail), it only resorts to the frontdoor pathway that risks aromatization when ur stressed (when cAMP is downregulated, which is reflective of ur metabolism, remember this detail too chat!!!)
Now that we got that out of the way, haidut made several threads for example this one link text where the scrotal application of DHEA pregnenolone etc
scrotal skin is EXTREMELY rich in 5 alpha reductase,logically shouldnt leave any room for aromatization , yet for SOME reason people in the threads that haidut made have indeed ended up with estrogen symptoms from the scrotal application of pansterone (ethanol as a solvent) and this really makes you wonder, what's going on?
Some have also tried DMSO, just like I did, and the results doesnt seem to be different, there was also some user there that noted literally physical organ pain. I myself also gotta say that I felt estrogenated from scrotal doses of pregnenolone in DMSO, something that shouldn't really aromatize and instead go through the backdoor pathway, yet it somehow still did
Did some digging, whole buncha studies, and a whole buncha AI ngl even though its stupid asf and I have to keep correcting this retarded taiwanese semiconductor demon, BOTH ethanol AND dmso seem to be inflammatory and end up downregulating cAMP, leading to more aromatization and more estrogen symptoms even when you're applying them on extremly rich 5AR sites
my experiences with DMSO + pregnenolone has been both androgenic and also estrogenic for me, a hypo overweight nigga who also has hella muscle, I didn't apply more than 10mg at a time
once while I was applying it (ON MY BALLS) , I instantly felt the same type of "good" that I felt on thyroid, but then after a couple of minutes I ended up experiencing some bad anxiety
so yea Ive done more digging around to see some other options for solvents, and I came toward the following
-dimethyl isosorbide (DMI)
-semulgreen 18-2 which some other user mentioned on lowtoxinforumso yea I'm asking around to see if there are any better solvents + any valuable experience that I could use of
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Applying the above brand on the scrotum a few summers ago gave me noticeable libido results.
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@hwisdom said in Haidut is poisoning our balls with dogshit solvents?! these solvents instead mog? find out in the next episode of dragonball Z:
Yeah the equivelent of 0.125ml of vodka per drop is poisonous.
, BOTH ethanol AND dmso seem to be inflammatory and end up downregulating cAMP
DMSO is FDA is approved to lower inflamation in Interstitial Cystitis.
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On the email thread on raypeatforum there was myriad of people sending ray an email in regards to putting DHEA on your balls, and each time there was a slight variance to his answers, as if he earnestly thought about it each time. At some point the structure of his responses became more rigid, and he started replying with something like "I do not know why you would put a neurosteroid (the brain) anywhere near your balls".
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@Peatful yea I dont rlly fast I know of its harmfull effects but also of its benefits ngl this is an old ass quote
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@jamezb46 this is intressting since DHEA should be strongly converted into DHT when it goes through such a rich 5AR site, effectivly lowering estrogen and not increasing it, but perhaps not all libido is the same
do u feel like elaborating etc?
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@alfredoolivas Im tryna apply it on my balls and this is where the issues actually come from not from drinking it
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the easy answer seems to be just take 3:1 cortinon in olive oil orally 5 drops max 3x a day. seems fool proof and easy compared to these other methods using topical preg etc
apparently even if you buy and mix the powders yourself in just pure olive oil, not even a-tocopherol like is meme'd about, it gets uptaken by chylomicrons just fine
people sleep on cortinon for some reason
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@sunsunsun I want to see someone replicate Haidut's claim that it can "really ramp up testosterone production in males".
I emailed him and it turns out those bodybuilders were injecting DHEA and P4 I think at a 1:8 ratio and 120 mg of P4 daily
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@jamezb46 I think it is probably better healthwise and probably lowkey comparable to real art aka like 140mg test c a week. I think otherwise he is exaggerating if he thinks it can replace a cycle. I think what he was saying is that on cruises prog and dhea can replace cruise dose of trt. I also think bodybuilders just like injecting stuff even if the oral version is nearly as bioavailable.
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why tf would you put preg with dsmo on your balls? Stupid move. Preg isn't the "backdoor pathway." You're confusing that with androsterone.
Ray said never to put anything onto your balls. Case closed
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@sunsunsun He made the specific claim that it increases endogenous testosterone production; I don't know how else to interpret "really ramps up testosterone production"
Also why would you use 140 test c/wk? I guess if you're hypogonadal but that's weak AF.
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The dose I used was approx. 5 mg DHEA, 5 mg P5. 1x or 2x/day.
At the time I was in a minor learned helplessness. Working a job I didn't really like, but not in the worst kind of state by any means. What I noticed was spontaneous erections in public (persistent, had to sit down on a bench to avoid doxxing myself), and intense, almost obsessive sexual desire that would make me think about it even when I wanted to stop and very satisfying orgasm.
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@jamezb46
Topical lanolin (which Haidut had written a lot about as well) as precursors to sex steroids strongly does what you described, too.
In the short term at least. In the medium term the effects and result turn very bad and sour for reasons I cannot explain but only report.
Also, the major curveball of DHEA use even at only 5-8mg per day is its turning to estrogenic dominance after a few months and super strongly especially after its cessation as some kind of derailment.
Some peeps may be exempt from such effects, and or ameliorated wrt this by concurrent use of AIs. Dunno.
Do you have any thoughts and ideas on that?
