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    • engineerE
      engineer @lykos
      last edited by engineer

      @lykos said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

      What was haiduts contribution to science or the world? he simply copy paste studies that affirm peat's theories and his rat cancer study is simply an experiment based on one of peat's theory about oxidative metabolism down to the same b vitamins recommended by Ray, he has not one original idea in his head and he's not a scientist just a peat sycophant who sells supplements

      I wouldn't know half the stuff I do if not for him. There is tons of value in being a good educator/communicator and he corroborates Peat's ideas with newer studies (ex: https://lowtoxinforum.com/threads/pyrucet-liquid-ethyl-pyruvate-aceatoacetate-mix.27487/). Plus where else can you get his obscure compounds in quantities small enough to try once?

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      • lykosL
        lykos @engineer
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        @engineer sign up to a biology class, reading post on the internet without having a uniformed understanding of biology is asinine.

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        • ThinPickingT
          ThinPicking @lykos
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          @lykos said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

          any restrictive diet will result in deficiencies long term

          Bioenergetics isn't a diet and the only (temporary) deficiency here is your cognitive function.

          if you understand physiology especially your own

          Yes... that's part of the point.

          Lykos, somewhere inside. You know why you're here.

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          • lykosL
            lykos @ThinPicking
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            @ThinPicking said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

            Bioenergetics isn't a diet and the only (temporary) deficiency here is your cognitive function.

            you will be crying in a few years on the lowtoxinforum about your "bio energetics" after you destroy your body subhuman.

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            • lykosL
              lykos @LucH
              last edited by lykos

              @LucH You are the only intelligent user on this forum, i agree.I would argue the first thing you should do before starting any diet is check your hormones minerals and bvitamins for any deficiencies and do a dna test for mutations, some one for example with mthfr would need specific diet curated to his individual needs instead of just eating foods to optimize carburation.

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              • sunsunsunS
                sunsunsun @lykos
                last edited by sunsunsun

                @lykos you are seething and possibly also malding

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                • JenniferJ
                  Jennifer
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                  I regained my health, in part, by following Ray’s work and my mum saw a regression in her cancer by following the general diet that Ray told me in an email exchange he recommended, along with thyroid and progesterone supplementation. I’ve written in depth on the old RPF about our experiences and numerous diagnoses, most of which were nonsense, but to summarize:

                  I was an active hiker in my 20s and without explanation began losing weight rapidly until I was done to 30 kg and at 29, while lifting half a watermelon, I felt my spine collapse under me. Within seconds I had fractured 12 vertebrae, 8 of which compressed, due to undiagnosed thyroid disease that caused advanced osteoporosis, leaving me almost 4" shorter and unable to walk. With the severity of my injury, I was at risk of paralysis if I fractured again and specialists told me not to expect to get better, let alone climb mountains again. Craving quite a bit of dairy at the time, I averaged 4 liters worth of raw milk/homemade yogurt daily, and the rest of my diet consisted of raw cheese, eggs, gelatinous broth, honey, fruit, greens, and smaller amounts of shellfish and pastured beef. Within months I had gained back all the muscle that had atrophied, and within a year I had greatly increased my bone density, going from a DEXA score of -6.7 to -3.6 (for reference, osteoporosis begins at -3.5). During this time, I also learned how to walk again, however, I was still at risk of fracturing, still in a lot of pain, amenorrheic, intolerant to many foods and having gallbladder attacks (doctors wanted to remove it, but I refused). I found Ray’s work about a year later, pressed my doctor to order a thyroid panel and hydrogen breath test, was diagnosed with thyroid disease, SIBO and gastritis, began supplementing thyroid (standardized NDT), got my period back, eliminated the SIBO, healed my gallbladder and intestines, gained back 2 inches of height and my health, and proved the specialists wrong—I’m climbing mountains again.

                  As for my mum’s experience, she had a biopsy in July of 2020 and was diagnosed with uterine cancer so she upped her thyroid dose by a grain, high dosed Progest-E (a bottle a week) and followed a diet consisting of mainly milk, cheese, eggs, liverwurst, gelatinous meat, carrot salad, fruit juice and sweetened coffee. A week later, in preparation for her upcoming surgery, further testing was performed and revealed that the cancer was worse than the previous biopsy showed—it was in the surrounding walls too—and she was informed that she would likely need chemo and radiation. She continued with the diet, high dosing Progest-E, and despite doctors trying to scare her into dropping her dose, the extra grain of thyroid, and when the surgeons went to remove her uterus 6 weeks later, they were shocked to find her walls were clean—there was no trace of cancer to be found—and she didn’t need any further intervention.

                  I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                  • lykosL
                    lykos @sunsunsun
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                    @sunsunsun no an argument retard

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                    • alfredoolivasA
                      alfredoolivas @lykos
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                      @lykos I haven't got ill in 4 years. That is the most notable effect on my health.

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                      • lykosL
                        lykos @Jennifer
                        last edited by lykos

                        @Jennifer thank you for your detailed message, i hope more share how peat improved their life or not.

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                        • BioEclecticB
                          BioEclectic
                          last edited by BioEclectic

                          The broader Peatosphere of bioenergetics and orthomolecular nutrition has had a broad impact on my life and health for the better part of a decade. I'd have to go back to age 15 or 16 to identify when I've last felt like this.

                          Seemingly limitless calm and focused energy, I can go all day and night. In my early 50's, 6ft, low body fat and strong.

                          I've never enjoyed the foods I've eaten more so than now. Nutrient dense and proper food prep opens up your diet options immensely.

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                          • R
                            Raymoud al-Peet
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                            Why is this clown even allowed to post here? None of his threads are constructive in any way, it's just straight up low effort trolling

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                            • JenniferJ
                              Jennifer @lykos
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                              You’re welcome, @lykos. 🙂

                              I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                              • JenniferJ
                                Jennifer @BioEclectic
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                                @BioEclectic said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:

                                I've never enjoyed the foods I've eaten more so than now.

                                Same here. 🙂

                                I have stood on a mountain of no’s for one yes. ~ B. Smith

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                                • C
                                  Corngold @engineer
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                                  @engineer
                                  Didn't find Peat until I was 30. Turning 34 in three months. Tiredness was an issue since I started college; was trying different diets and routines though nothing was "working." Low blood sugar, cortisol, adrenaline, probably lower thyroid function were the big problems. The commenter who said sugar helps prevent crashes is right. Fruit as well as actual sugar in coffee with milk.

                                  Avoiding huge amounts of protein - which almost no young people do because we've all been told "protein builds muscle." And the myths about saturated fat and cholesterol. Beef, eggs and butter are your friend as long as you're avoiding fast food, pufa, and walking or doing some lifting. I used to avoid sugar. Many people are keto-brained and do this. Knock on wood, but many of these changes really helped me get energy, stop being achey and tired, fatigued, headaches, brain-fog, etc.

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                                  • sunsunsunS
                                    sunsunsun @lykos
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                                    @lykos it is an argument to point out you are seething and possibly malding

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                                    • lykosL
                                      lykos @sunsunsun
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                                      @sunsunsun Nah you are projecting, i made a statement and instead of arguing against it you are reacting with meme words like a redditor

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                                      • lykosL
                                        lykos @Raymoud al-Peet
                                        last edited by lykos

                                        @Raymoud-al-Peet my threads are the only things of meaning on this site, this forum is not an echo chamber.

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