Has anyone improved their health by peating
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Peatard meme (sugar,coffee,liver, gelatin ,milk,fruits) diet deteriorated my health until i stopped it and reverted back to diverse whole food diet, on the lowtoxinforum has many victims of the peat meme diet, i am wondering if there are people who regained their health by peating. If you benefited from the diet post in this thread and be specific.
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@lykos I used to get so tired every single afternoon that I needed an hour long nap, now I don't anymore after sugarmaxxing thanks to Peat. It's a wonder how so many people are doing keto/low carb and aren't complete zombies.
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I restored my health due to his work
And I was very very sick for quite a long time -
@Peatful be specific
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@lykos i’ve told the story many times
If you can search my name on the old forum, you can read a lot of my story there
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@lykos said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:
Peatard meme diet
peat meme diet
peating
None of these things exist. Forgive yourself and laugh it off, now you know.
diverse whole food diet
Whether you need to adjust your ratios and other dependencies to summon the energy for something or avoid the consequences of a deficit is context dependant. Occupy yourself.
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@engineer said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:
@lykos I used to get so tired every single afternoon that I needed an hour long nap, now I don't anymore after sugarmaxxing thanks to Peat. It's a wonder how so many people are doing keto/low carb and aren't complete zombies.
This is accurate for me, too. Work was making achey and napping was the only "relief" for several years.
I can nap now, but I don't need too every day. -
@lykos said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:
Peatard meme (sugar,coffee,liver, gelatin ,milk,fruits) diet deteriorated my health until i stopped it and reverted back to diverse whole food diet, on the lowtoxinforum has many victims of the peat meme diet, i am wondering if there are people who regained their health by peating. If you benefited from the diet post in this thread and be specific.
Hi, there is a misunderstanding. There no Peat diet. Only accurate / advisable elements to optimize carburation / expenditure in a functional body.
You don't take liver or drink half a bottle of orange juice on a weak metabolism.
And when there is a barrage from the thyroid (overloaded by HM) or from the liver (fat) or from the microbiota (immunity & inflammation), or from defective recup (stress => excess cortisol / lack of serotonin & melatonin), you can't manage as if you were fit.
by the way, I don't think this schema "sugar,coffee,liver, gelatin ,milk,fruits"
is very suitable to get the appropriate / useful macro and micro nutrients. Too long to explain why. Target one meal and we'll see how to manage. Begin with the breakfast. And if the breakfast doesn't bring the appropriate nutrients, you improve with the next meal and a supplement when required. How? I use cronometer.com 80% at the end of the day. I've changed the standard RDA for nutrients to my needs. -
@lykos said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:
i am wondering if there are people who regained their health by peating.
With MAHA and health-fluencer personalities it's now pretty common to hear about plastics, seed oils, emulsifiers and additives. This is also where Peat's work has some of its biggest impact - covering the industrialization of food. This should be a big first step to anyone.
Peat was not an influencer, grifter or guru. He provided great research and resources, but we have to put it together for ourselves. I don't know if he said it, but I'm sure he would advocate avoiding binary or black and white thinking.
Some people ignore all material and physical signs and concentrate on spiritual health. Others neglect spiritual understanding and obsess about physical and material health. If this were a bell-curve, at this point in time, I would say extremes are in the center and the outliers are dual integration of spiritual and physical/material health. My evidence? Keto, carnivore, vegetarianism, vegan, etc: all of these trends for over 10-20 years follow from extremes. Same with traditional Christianity, Buddhist or yoga retreats, fundamentalist Islam, paganism, etc. Same with politics. Almost every spiritual and health paradigm since the 1960s has become extreme and cultish. Some of the Peatsphere is cultish, but some is anti-cult.
We can't choose physical or spiritual because both are very important. Reading about alternative medicine, mind-body connections, TCM, GNM, and other areas of research new and old that are not accepted in the fairly recent dogmatic western health system is a must as is the Peat bibliography. Maybe it is all to be taken with a grain of salt, but I think the other option is to "not try," and not attempt things, which is failure by default.
I had tried vegetarianism, whole food/raw type eating,
eventually found success in carnivore-esque and Peat / mediterranean eating. It's just a total wilderness in this society - nobody who knows nutrition well teaches it, and what is taught is usually private industry / pharmaceutical-driven bullshit.I don't know if we can "regain" our health, or "regain" what was lost. I doubt this. However, we can either rebuild, or, give up and decay. I think we all want to rebuild. Even better: "build." Scrap the past, never look back, take risks.
I'll also note that for many in the Peat-sphere the common thread is of never having felt "good" health in the first place. Whether it be stress, hypothyroidism, obesity, etc., the modern environment is wreaking havoc on natural being, health and beauty, and that's abundantly clear.
"Health" is not a binary. Nobody is ever finished improving their life until maybe death.
But, on the material side?
- coffee can be better enjoyed with milk and sugar
- pufa should be limited
- drink real milk
- get fiber, get micronutrients and minerals
- don't avoid red meat and seafood
Same reason I largely quit eating things like bacon - because of nitrates, pufa / fat quality, and peanut butter (oxalates, mufa/pufa, etc). Both always gives me headaches / tiredness and stomach acid. It took some Peat research to see and think about fats and macronutrients in a new way.
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@Corngold How old are you? Some of my engineering college classmates are feeling exactly the same as this too (super tired every day) and I suspect it's more widespread than we think
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Milk and fruit heavy diet is what I arrived at through Peat and has improved my hypothyroidism by like 90%. Like imagine having 5 times as much energy per day than previously, without significant stress hormones. It's the difference between wallowing in dread as default state vs being able to do significant things in my life.
Nowadays I replace a lot of the milk with eggs and butter but the underlying principle and the result is still the same.
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@Corngold said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:
I don't know if we can "regain" our health, or "regain" what was lost. I doubt this.
We absolutely can—I’m living proof—but I can understand doubting it when you haven’t experienced it for yourself…yet.
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@ThinPicking any restrictive diet will result in deficiencies long term, peat principles are important only if you understand physiology especially your own otherwise is useless and a meme diet which will cause problems long term
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@Corngold said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:
Peat was not an influencer, grifter or guru.
I agree peat was probably the only person in the health sphere who was not grifting for money unlike danny roady and haidut and many others. To my understand he spread his autism for biology for altruistic purposes.
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if by peat diet you mean the neurotic weird stuff some people on here do or the twitter people are doing, then no, im not doing the peat diet
I eat a normal diet including bread and pasta and convenience foods
I just avoid pufa oils and skew more to low fat even though I don't do neurotic low fat diets except as experimentsto be honest that now fat guy matt stone who did the "eat for heat" stuff before he went off the radar and got obese actually influenced me almost as much as peat's work, because matt's writings influenced me not to be neurotic about diet
I used to restrict calories to stay lean and it just made me feel bad . there was a period of getting fatter at first when stopping that but it evened out after awhile of getting high calorie adapted.
I changed a lot positively in physical health but also mentally, sometimes I interact with people and am amazed how offputting some of my behavior must have been which was similar to theirs, as them behaving in such a way is super off-putting to me.
these people doing restrictive peat diets dont really get the high nutrient cycling and calorie intake needed to have robust health , you can see it in the things they post, they're not really "normal" (normal not normie), they have weird inclinations and weird ways of talking to/about people.
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@sunsunsun said in Has anyone improved their health by peating:
I eat a normal diet including bread and pasta and convenience foods
I just avoid pufa oils and skew more to low fat even though I don't do neurotic low fat diets except as experimentsThats the normie healthy diet, nothing to do with peat about it. For peatard neuroticism check the video of danny roady of what i eat in a day.
Best diet for your physiology is discovered by doing genetic test and the modifying your diet according to your lifestyle. Here is common knowledge that seedoils and processed foods are bad for you and should be avoided.When i see the average russian of middle to upper class they are healthy energetic and attractive.
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@lykos haidut is not grifting for money, you must not know what he does to come to that conclusion. number
1, ignoring the fact he pays for all the research studies himself, having a supplement company and selling desirable products is not a grift or a scam or anything like that. implying that having a business that makes money is grifting is insane, when the products he offers are in-demand and people buy them of their own accord.
- now not ignoring the fact he funds his own research studies, that makes the supplement business he runs even less chance of being a grift, because he is diverting some of his income to pursue research. on freakin' vitamins and un-patentable hormones. this latter point is even more proof that your assertion he is grifting is insane, because what grift is there in literally paying for research studies to publish in journals (which the researcher has to PAY to get their paper submitted in) for FREAKIN BIOTIN AND THIAMINE AND NIACINAMIDE. where is the grift here? You think the FDA is gonna grant haidut a monopoly on sales of b vitamins?
get a grip nigga
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@lykos you didn't even read my post because you told me to check out petard neuroticism when I specifically mentioned I am aware of this neuroticism already in my post. so it's not worth continuing a conversation with as you're not even listening
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@sunsunsun Learn to read, i pointed out that your diet is normal diet meaning low neuroticism.
@lykos haidut is not grifting for money, you must not know what he does to come to that conclusion. number
Haidut found his niche in the peatsphere to sell his boner pills, most of his supplements are overpriced garbage, do i need to remind your of his vitamin k2 solvent oil.
What was haiduts contribution to science or the world? he simply copy paste studies that affirm peat's theories and his rat cancer study is simply an experiment based on one of peat's theory about oxidative metabolism down to the same b vitamins recommended by Ray, he has not one original idea in his head and he's not a scientist just a peat sycophant who sells supplements
Scroll in the old peatforum and search for haiduts post on how to regrow hair and stop hairloss, all the proof you need that he is a charlatan.
