@revenant said in My Experiments With Hormones:

@RFC32 said in My Experiments With Hormones:

Alright.

So I now have alpha gels which is just vitamin e, dmso, and micronized Testosterone.

Where did you buy this from?

There's an email you can order from, not sure if I'm allowed to share it here. If so I'll update it in here, can anyone tell me what's allowed and not? They sell DHT and Test in DMSO with vitamin E, bit pricey.

@PrinceTrebata said in My Experiments With Hormones:

@RFC32 Did transdermal application anywhere other than scrotal have similer effects?

I also tested naval and it felt really good, energy, drive, less anxious or fight feeling probably due to less DHT.

@metabolicmilk said in My Experiments With Hormones:

@RFC32

How was the alphagels experience compared to other ways of test application you have tried?

Did alphagels feel stronger or last longer than your other experiments?

It definitely lasts way longer, the sublingual stuff only lasts about two hours and it's noticeable.

I will say sublingual though is really amazing, honestly I think I prefer it. You just have to dose more.

The problem is the carrier used is toxic for me, my eyes become blurry, my skin breaks out and I look awful very quickly. I'm debating either doing test in Vitamin E suspension for sublingual or making pasties, that's a method I found trans MTF people use putting estrogen basically into gum you stick to your gums, I think I could do the same with testosterone.

DMSO test is cool though, but topical transference still has me freaked out.

Alright.

So I now have alpha gels which is just vitamin e, dmso, and micronized Testosterone.

Applying to my scrotum I get:

• Increase in energy
• Increase in aggression
• Increase in confidence
• Increase in strength

Application with DMSO is super messy, has to be rubbed in and I worry a lot about transference. There are many claims of 99% permeability with DMSO but it’s hard to say if that’s true, and what about the test on my hands from application.

Also I did find that sublingual felt better, more energy, it had to be dosed multiple times a day but it was extremely reliable, I also found libido a bit higher.

I need to find a way to make homemade sublingual test as the stuff I got sets off my allergies immediately.

Should vitamin e and test straight together work?

@mavuue no, libido does go down but my libido is usually ridiculously high, it’s a bit of a benefit.

No cracked joints, but it makes me super sleepy so I take it at night often sublingually, I can still smell it the next day and my wife can tell when I’ve taken it.

Update: took 6mg sublingual again today and once again great energy, sex drive, happy. But allergic responses again. I’ve found that Farnese uses this chemical in some of its smart systems too and people have commented it makes them react immediately.

I ordered alpha gels test because I just really want a way to keep running this, but I’m also considering getting vitamin e and raw test then making sublingual.

Sublingual definitely works for me, it’s easy to take too and the study that uses it shows an increase in dht which is probably why my drive goes up so much on it. Self control goes way up too and libido is good.

I did take 30 mg the other day, 6 mg 5 times a day and by the end I was suppressed based on semen consistency.

I want to try it with vitamin e to see if it extends half life.

DMSO test from alpha gels will be interesting. I avoided it before because my wife is super sensitive to smells. Seems like he adds in essential oils to help with that. I’ve also read adding a tiny bit of honey has been shown to get rid of the bad dmso breath.

@metabolicmilk

If you’re going to go dmso just go straight dmso and apply on the balls. Otherwise tocopherol and ethanol sublingual seems best to me.

Testosterone has felt so much better to me than the other hormones to me that’s the ultimate one.

I avoid dmso because it makes my breath and sweat smell so my wife doesn’t like it. Also anything topical I worry about getting on my kids, especially if it’s in large amounts. Too easily to spill, get on clothing, or get on hands. I know dmso fully absorbs but I still have trouble trusting it, if my kids had hormonal issues from my experiments I’d never forgive myself.

I’m considering just injecting but my wife is against it. Managing estrogen is a pain but I’m willing to do it.

I will say pregnenolone and DHEA help my brain function a lot. Chess scores go way up as does mood.

@milo7 around 4mg, two on wrists two sublingual.

I’ve also used the full dose from icon labs which is much higher but the amount absorbed is lower so I don’t know how it compares. That stuff turns me into walking cologne though.

@wester130 thank you!

And yes, half life is noticeably short, I peak after an hour and then the difference is noticeable after three hours.

It’s actually a problem as well, because you can’t load your dose up high or things feel awful fast when everything hits at once.

I am definitely allergic to hbcpd though which is unfortunate.

Edit: I want to add that the low half life of HBCPD with testosterone is well supported in literature. When they used it in testing they did 5 mg 3 times a day to get testosterone levels up to acceptable.

My assumption is with vitamin e we may be able to increase dosage and decrease frequency, or even do the same and see how it goes.

I know people in the forums were talking about how 1mg Ray would take seems way too little. But my experience with sublingual shows there is likely a large effect.

@jamezb46 it uses hbpcd just like the other sublingual studies.

I don’t know these site rules but I do have a link to the seller, but it’s an underground overseas steroid lab basically.

@PrinceTrebata

I love Pansterone, if I didn’t gain weight like crazy on it I’d never stop using it.

@PrinceTrebata good question. 11 keto dht is decent with testosterone but on its own was not super reliable for me.

Androsterone I keep just for pheromones. If my wife is ovulating it sends her into overdrive and before meeting with my board of investors I always use it.

Pansterone taken orally sure makes my brain fog go away but I get so hungry I gain a lot of weight with it so I rarely use it.

I’d say testosterone and then androsterone are my favorites.

@wester130 I have taken enclomiphene before and faced the eye damage and this is definitely different.

It is dry eyes, I have huge issues focusing my eyesight, my eczema also suddenly breaks out. If I take an antihistamine it keeps the eczema at bay but dries out my eyes further.

Enclomiphene gave me oily skin, but no energy or drive and I started seeing floaters in my eyes. The effects of sublingual testosterone were much more of what I’m looking for despite the side effects.

Enclomiphene effects also came on after a couple of weeks, even with the first dose of sublingual test in hbcpd I feel the allergies hit. It’s that dang hbcpd.