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@max How long did you try it?
Did you end up switching to synthetic eventually?
I just received NDT from lifegivingstore after hearing good reviews. Though you're right, its tough to understand t3 to t4 ratio. Just wondering whether to start on it or think it through and figure something else out.
Not in a hurry, i'm all ears to figure this out
2 years ago, before ever coming across peat or messing around with nutrition (classic gym diet era), I popped magnesium glycinate. I probably bought it because it was becoming mainstream in the lifting circles to care about magnesium
That first time I'll never forget. I woke up to the beauty of the sun, went to the terrace, and saw every part of the world around me. The breeze felt like angels sharing a hug, the trees swayed to tell a whole story, and I was pumping out pull ups. It was a feeling of deep satisfaction with everything in sight, and the entire life situation at the time, whilst being perfectly rooted and aware of handling any situation in my immediate environment
Eggs never tasted better
At the time this happened, I never experimented with substances or doses. I hit the gym regularly and had/have goals and ambitions.
This experience was a one-off; it never happened again. I did try to chase it a bit for fun, but didn't think too much of it
Just reminiscing and wondering if this sense of euphoria can actually be achieved casually on a daily basis, without chasing it
@BroJonas This makes a lot of sense. Thanks, will try and share back.
My real concern/thoughts are around what else needs to be carefully accounted for during this NDT supplementation phase. Magnesium? nutrient deficiencies? prog? can't get a doc currently so just relying on forums and the broda barnes work
@Buckian I have been seeing similar things as well.
Cholesterol was closer to 200 6 months ago (2.1 TSH era) back when red fatty meat everyday
@Mulloch94 Doing a weekly serving of 100g liver. I've had a Vit D deficiency for a long while, and only recently started supplementing with 5000 IU occasionally at random times. Vit E whenever PUFA is in the horizon
Thanks for the perspective. What I don't look forward to is the adaptation phase of taking thyroid. I seem to think to myself that I cannot afford to take a while with subpar mental and physical performance (work, creative output) in this adaptation phase to thyroid, since I'm taking on important pursuits at work right now
@wagner Way too high indeed. Wonder if prolactin rising itself is a cause for concern, or if prolactin rises because other related stress pathways and underlying issues cause it to rise
@latte You are right, it is a very very diluted thyroid supp.
I don't think its unrelated or nocebo, because I was looking forward to taking it, and one of the reactions was ears ringing in the morning — and I've never had that happen before, definitely a strange new symptom.
But i see where you're coming from. Thanks. thinking of just stopping everything for a while and coming back to proper NDT dosing in a while
@insufferable Definitely lot of laptop work — i enjoy it considering i'm attempting to build something in the world as well
my TSH has risen in 6 months, though not directly attributed to "Peating" as a whole. I think there was a stressor/other reason, and along the way, i've been "Peating" to attempt to curb this change
I have not gotten Iron work done. interesting though. will check that out.
Thanks for replying!
@DonkeyDude Appreciate this. I also read your other thread and experience with the adrenaline and mag glycinate. Cool to see the change with time. Thanks for sharing and hope that's stabilising now
@GreekDemiGod Thanks for the response. I do agree. But does that entail sticking with it even if it hinders daily quality of living experience? and the ability to take on tasks to build a good life? genuine question.
i didn't think so during the last 2 experiences on thyroid supp. I listened to reactions and perceptions, and decided to stop, recalibrate, and do it a better way again
@DonkeyDude Interesting. shall factor this in. Curious, what indicators might exist to prove whether the conversion from t4 to t3 is the problem, or the actual production of both is the problem?
Hey guys - been engaging in the literature and community for a while. The world is better for it
For a while now, I’ve seen a drop in energy levels. Lifting used to feel great after the session - now it is fatiguing. The lack in energy first thing in the morning is evident — and this is a visible difference compared to last year when things were vibrant.
This can either be attributed to
i) quit a job a while ago, the stress of figuring out what’s to come (even though I’m extremely optimistic about the future, there is a natural stress attached to it)
ii) tried a bout of carnivore last year for about a month. ended it because I needed carbs. Decided never again to go down that path
iii) shifted houses recently and access to the sun dropped heavily, and so amount of morning sun has dropped
After engaging in peat’s works for about half a year, I saw that temps were around 97F, pulse around 60, and I started making a case to myself about the hypo connection. It was in the lower basal temps, pulse, dipping in energy, etc. Nothing is terribly bad, but the change I could notice concerned me.
Brain energy to stay focused on one task was lacking - I am finding it tough to do one thing great, take it through to completion, etc.
Sociability has reduced. I love meeting people. But the propensity to want to go out to new places and new experiences has dropped, and I’m rather finding myself choosing what I know works consistently
Noticing this, I got some panels done. Prolactin high (25), serotonin around 125, PTH around 69, TSH increased from 2.4 to 3.1 in 6 months. Cholesterol 170. Calcium and phosphorous both on the upper end, though the high calcium and high PTH connection tells me that it’s actually a sign of low calcium and the process to get calcium restored through bones and other pathways.
So somewhat curiously, I tried 2 thyroid supplements, and both did not sit right at all.
The first was an off-shelf supplement that was a higher dose than needed on day 1 (150mg natural glandular). After a couple days of that, instantly felt uneasy, lack of motivation and drive, and just overall not right. So I stopped it. Gave it a 2-3 weeks of no supplementation
Then, after reading about ideal dosing and more, I tried a homeopathic supplement ‘thyroidinum 3x’. It’s supposed to be sheep glandular. Tried this for 2 days — again lost all motivation, drive, had ears ringing in the morning, etc
Currently, I have NDT from Life Giving Store on the way to try a broad barnes esque slow, small increments approach
Only other sups I have are Mag GLycinate which I take occasionally, Vit E for whenever eating outside food and fats, and vitamin D. Recently got some niacinamide and thiamine hcl in tablet form. Considering the purity of these too and might switch to better options.
So my open questions are as follows
Thanks. Much appreciated.