@Norwegian-Mugabe currently using a mixture of chicken stock and just adding in various spices to taste. Nothing too complicated, mostly the goal is to make this palatable, since I'm not going to pretend its the most intellectually stimulating diet. May play around with making a rice-pudding like sweet variation in the near future, add some sweetness into the mix.

Brief update in regards to the experiment. Still going very well, seeing more and more slimming and overall weight has started to drop as well. Particularly noticing slimming in the face, with jaw becoming more defined and more noticeable cheekbones.

Felt vindicated about the plan's efficacy when I saw this haidut post: https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/1155/obesity-linked-to-mitochondrial-dysfunction-in-gi-tract-treatable-by-fat-restriction

Will keep going until the summer at least, getting better at flavoring the rice has made this much more feasible. If I play my cards right I will be downright lean by then.

@Spud_consumer This is great to hear! Glad to hear that it can work in variants that allow more dietary fat, though of course those fats being coconut oil and egg yolks certainly helps.

@jrwhisky said in "Fat Free" Short grain rice and skimmed milk diet highly effective for fat loss:

@Netabolism I think it would work quite well, I have been following this blog on it for a while.

https://slimemoldtimemold.com/2022/04/29/potato-diet-community-trial-sign-up-now-lol/

I tried it 18 months ago and like a lot of people lost strength but also quite a lot of fat. I think the skim milk option might be the solution for staying anabolic.

Yeah I can't imagine doing this without the milk, even more so with potatoes since you'd have to eat so much of them. I think when you are eating starches at the quantities needed for a diet like this ease of digestibility is paramount, since any slowdown in digestion will result in more and more hitting the gut bacteria, which could very easily go completely wild.

@zipris I take them suspended in an oil, so the fat needed is right there. On some days I do have some low fat milk instead of skimmed if I am feeling like it. The main goal of this whole experiment was initially testing a macro mix I had never actually tried in my previous experiments somehow, the fact that it seems to be working quite well is just a bonus to satiating my curiosity.

Decided to weigh myself this morning for a change, total weight is starting to decrease in addition to the overall slimming. For those worried about fat-soluble vitamins I am supplementing with them as needed.

@Netabolism I don't see why not, fulfills the same role of being high carb and low fat. In fact I'm pretty sure that I have just reinvented the Potato Hack with rice instead of potatoes and adding skimmed milk.
If you can handle the potatoes in that quantity go ahead, my main reason for picking the short grained rice is I wanted the most easily digested starch possible in order to make sure I didn't flood my intestines with undigested starch, causing bacterial overgrowth. Also the caloric density, a pound of rice feeds me for a day, whereas I would probably need 5 pounds of potatoes for equivalent calories.

@SVVAYED I have tried it, is a useful addition. Will definitely experiment with it more, and definitely need to add more gelatin into the diet.

@idealabsrat So you boil water and soak the rice in that, just sitting on a countertop in a pot. Then after minimum an hour you rinse it to remove excess starch (I have found stirring it mid soak makes this much easier, takes twice as long to wash properly if you don't). After it is rinsed to the point that upon sticking your finger into it in a few different locations you have no residue sticking to your finger put back in the pot, add water to first joint on index finger above top of rice, bring to boil and leave on low heat for 10 minutes.

@PrinceMyshkin Have some Greco Gum myself, and aside from being a bit expensive I think is pretty decent. Honestly I think it's less the gum specifically and more that it keeps antimicrobial substances in the mouth proper for a while and stimulates saliva production.

@secondkelping I have laid out my process a bit more in-depth here: https://bioenergetic.forum/topic/422/fat-free-short-grain-rice-and-skimmed-milk-diet-highly-effective-for-fat-loss

But the main thing is just soaking the rice in boiling water for around an hour before cooking it, and then rinsing it in a colander or sieve. Clean off the starchy goo, then boil for 10 minutes. Add stock cube/pot for flavor as desired, or else flavour with a sauce after cooking.