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@jwayne said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

@Hando-Jin said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

I don't see it discussed much in bioenergetic circles.

The reason is because its nearly irrelevant to bioenergetic theory.

Most people in these circles tend to not take government claims at face value, look for what actual evidence indicates, recognize that most popular ideas are often wrong etc

This is one issue where I don't see them doing that.

@zawisza said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

@Hando-Jin said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

If you think could is the same word as don't and won't and then you should repeat primary school.

could and may indicates speculation and is not a scientific evidence of ETs

That's a strawman. You said it was 'scientifically impossible' for life to exist elsewhere and I provided evidence to the contrary. Actual existence of aliens on other planets was not what was being discussed in that paragraph.

Photos and videos are not evidence either as all of them have been shot with a microwave in 120p and can not prove that UFO was an alien and not a natural or supernatural event (i.e., meteor, plane or demon).

Incorrect. Many images have been scrutinized by experts in optics. Natural events, planes etc have been ruled out.

You presuppose possibility of life outside of Earth (and more, that it's intelligent and super-advanced) which there's no evidence for

I presuppose nothing. We're being visited, they aren't from here ergo they must be from elsewhere.

You keep claiming there is no evidence for any of this. What is your proof for this claim? I've already posted several large government reports and I can post a lot more.

You don't care that there are never any remnants of UFO though many have crashed;

I think that's incorrect to say. Crash retrievals appear to have occurred and credible people have claimed governments are indeed in possession of 'exotic' materials.

or that their manoeuvres "break the laws of physics as we know it" and then claim that science can prove ETs.

those things aren't mutually exclusive

Or that gov. releases out of their own will documents supposedly proving aliens but then say "they don't want you to know about this".

The few very good government documents people have got their hands on were leaked, not released.

You pretend that this is not ideology but every occult sect believes in aliens and rituals to contact them are identical to demon rituals. And every time aliens talk about religion it's freemason like trash "everyone is equal", "all religions are truly the same". It is ideology for you.

An ideology is a set of beliefs or philosophies. UFO research involves hard physical evidence in the form of witness account, photographic, video, geological and medical evidence. It's the study of a physical phenomenon.

@Hando-Jin said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

Can't be produced by humans in this period of time does not mean it cannot be produced at all, either by us or someone else. There's evidence showing the latter has occurred.

This is complete anti-scientific nonsense that deserves nothing but ridicule. You can not "produce" gravity.

It's more correct to say humans cannot produce it, yet. As I said, evidence indicates another civilization has already.

The far right section of RP world consists entirely of Charlie's idiot friends/sockpuppet accounts. So basically just one guy.

@zawisza said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

It is unsurprising then that ET-believers often come from reddit and occult, and treat aliens

You have to reduce it to an ideology (and of course it's a 'demonic' one) because your own beliefs are threatened by reality. Obviously nothing new for religious people.

The claims that many people make about this being a government psy-op, an elaborate hoax orchestrated by the military in order to convince the public this was absolutely real for the purpose of distracting their attention etc must be extremely amusing to the people in the government who are involved in this issue.

The real psy-op has always been a campaign of ridicule, documented harassment of UFO groups and in some cases direct cash payments to people claiming abduction in order to discredit the entire issue and make the people feel it wasn't real. Governments have never wanted the public to feel they had things flying around in their airspace that they couldn't control and were many time more powerful than anything in their arsenals.

Either way, as long as people believe it to be a fraud I suppose that's all they care about.

@zawisza said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

@Hando-Jin said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

Extraterrestrial Life May be Common around Binary Stars

"may"

@Hando-Jin said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

Low-mass binary stars could make the best hosts for alien life because their combined energy extends the habitable region farther away than would exist around a single star

"could"

@Hando-Jin said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

Low-mass twins could make the best hosts, because their combined energy extends the habitable region farther away than would exist around a single star.

"could"

I.e., they don't and won't. This is not science. This is speculation.

If you think could is the same word as don't and won't and then you should repeat primary school.

If you want to talk about actual evidence in the form of photographs, videos, studies or abduction cases then I'll respond but not to silly games.

It is been known for a long time that gravity can not be "produced".

Can't be produced by humans in this period of time does not mean it cannot be produced at all, either by us or someone else. There's evidence showing the latter has occurred.

@Truth said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

Steven Greer's claims, don't necessary have a high degree of coherence

Yeah, he's a twit and a grifter. He has a brand, which is why he is everywhere. I think he's made a lot of money of the topic and likes to big note himself about having supposed government contacts etc. He's helped poison the topic.

I would recommend a Stan Friedman lecture and/or any of James Fox's movies.

https://youtu.be/4JBx01h4GpA
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2276454/

@Truth said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

@Hando-Jin So?

Exactly. What's your point? That some of it is not credible? That's not that much of a big deal.

@jwayne said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

For example, there is a proper way to contemplate and discuss metaphysics and philosophy without needing to introduce Aliens.

The UFO/alien topic is neither metaphysics or philosophy.

@Truth said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

@Hando-Jin Hi,
Yet some aspects of the way the idea of ufo existence is partly promoted seem questionable,

That's true of just about anything in life.

@zawisza said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

@Hando-Jin said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

no obvious pathologies were present

Means nothing.

lol, ok. We'll just ignore the judgement of somebody trained to detect mental illnesses.

a, b, c I have no problem with, and neither with "reports" or "sightings". That someone saw something and then says its UFO is not a scientific evidence. d can be true because at times these are demonic as can be seen by purely negative fruits or UFOs or one's "fascination" with it.

They're real but you can only interpret them through your religious derangement.

@Hando-Jin said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

Incorrect assumptions about astronomy from the 19th century don't answer the question about whether or not there is evidence of ufos. It's a strange argument.

It's not strange. It shows that this idea lived long and it's for long (always) been devoid of evidence since it's an ideology and not scientific theory or even hypothesis.

How would you know it's devoid of evidence? You've never read a single book, read a single report, listened to a single lecture about the topic.

Anything scientific involves discussion of evidence. You've done everything but discuss the evidence, opting to instead engage in ridicule and speculation about probabilities.

@Hando-Jin said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

binary star systems which are far more common are more likely to have life on them?

"this planet is more likely to have life than that" is unscientific nonsense guided by ideological blind faith in aliens.

You like talking about 'science' but strangely never post any

Extraterrestrial Life May be Common around Binary Stars
Low-mass binary stars could make the best hosts for alien life because their combined energy extends the habitable region farther away than would exist around a single star

Low-mass twins could make the best hosts, because their combined energy extends the habitable region farther away than would exist around a single star.
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/extraterrestrial-life-may/

Moreover, even if it wasn't complete nonsense;

• probabilities one generally speaks of are extremely small and since universe is not infinite they still often do not suffice for reasonable postulate.
• where is the closest binary star system or any planet that has "high likelyhood of having life"? What's the probability that they would harbour life, and more, life more technologically advanced than us? And how can it be possible to travel these distances? There's a reason why ET promoters have to escape to scientifically sounding gobbledygook like "intradimensions", worm holes, etc.

It's easy to travel long distance if you can produce gravity. This is been known for a long time.

@zawisza said in Who likes talking about UFO stuff?:

@Hando-Jin UFOs are fake. Somehow they only kidnap occultist weirdos, weed smokers, and fetishists. No sane person ever had been kidnapped by UFO which says a lot.

Completely false. The most infamous abduction accounts come from entirely sane people, The Betty and Barney Hill incident, Travis Walden etc

A Harvard professor of psychiatry went from thinking it was nonsense to accepting the accounts as a real.

In the early 1990s, Mack commenced a decade-plus psychological study of 200 men and women who reported recurrent alien encounter experiences...He initially suspected that such persons were suffering from mental illness, but when no obvious pathologies were present in the persons he interviewed, his interest was piqued
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_E._Mack

That aliens exist is not a new idea, already in Ancient Greece Democritus and some Epicureans believed in many occupied worlds (i.e., aliens). Rightly, they were mocked by Aristotle and other smart people, and their ideas almost forgotten for houndreds of years in Europe until Renaissance.

Whether it's new or not doesn't have much bearing on it's reality.

There are accounts of flying discs in roman literature, wood carvings depicting ufos of the same shape seen today.

Moreover, it is completely unscientific position to claim that they exists and especially that they ever visited Earth.

There is overwhelming evidence and numerous scientific investigations into the phenomenon.

Project Sign, Project Grudge, and Project Blue Book – Air Force UFO Research Programs (1947-1969)
https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/project-blue-book/

Condon Report
https://www.theblackvault.com/documentarchive/tag/condon-report/

Canary Islands ufo report
https://bibliotecavirtual.defensa.gob.es/BVMDefensa/exp_ovni/i18n/consulta/registro.do?control=BMDB20160069082

A memo from Air Force General Nathan Twining:

*2. It is the opinion that:

a. The phenomenon is something real and not visionary or fictitious.

b. There are objects probably approximating the shape of a disc, of such appreciable size as to appear to be as large as man-made aircraft.

c. There is a possibility that some of the incidents may be caused by natural phenomena, such as meteors.

d. The reported operating characteristics such as extreme rates of climb, maneuverability (particularly in roll), and motion which must be considered evasive when sighted or contacted by friendly aircraft and radar, lend belief to the possibility that some of the objects are controlled either manually, automatically or remotely.

https://www.geekslop.com/life/strange/ufos-and-aliens/2016/twining-memo-1947-letter-us-general-roswell-confirms-ufos-are-real#cmtoc_anchor_id_2*

It was widely popular that Marsians exist in 18th and 19th century, that with telescopes they can see canals and what not, that it is a matter of time till we have definitive proof of extraterrestrials (same talking point as today) -- Of course it was all fake.

Incorrect assumptions about astronomy from the 19th century don't answer the question about whether or not there is evidence of ufos. It's a strange argument.

there is no sound scientific explanation on how life started so speculating that life exist on other planets is pure fantasy.

'we don't know so it can't be possible'

lol, talk about some 19th century thinking.

Do you understand how unlikely life is to survive in a planetary system with only one star, such as ours due to the nature of extinction level events? and that binary star systems which are far more common are more likely to have life on them?

If sci-fi would not exist, probably no one would think aliens are real.

except for the large volumes of evidence that you've apparently never seen a shred of.

Lastly, Christianity is not threatened by UFO because, unlike God, UFOs are fake.

Ah, now I know the root of your opposition.

The government faking thousands of photographs, video footage and testimonies from high quality witnesses all over the world is approximately schizophrenic.

I don't see it discussed much in bioenergetic circles. Maybe because RPF is a religious nutcase forum and it's threatening to them.

I've never heard Ray say anything about apart from one comment where he kind of dismissed it as a government propaganda weapon. Roddy said Peat made some remarks about Roswell, how the truth might be weirder than the official story etc. I don't think he read the definitive Roswell account by Friedman and Berliner, an excellent book.

James Fox's documentaries are really good. That missing 414- the UFO connection was also excellent.

I tried to run my health problems away. The more I hurt myself the better.

These days when I see somebody running it seems very stupid. I feel like asking them why on earth they believe it is good for them. I guess it's often a vanity/exhibitionist thing among 'activewear' lovers who like being ogled.

I liked his podcasts with John Barkhausen -politics and science.

https://www.radio4all.net/program/79737

I don't think Michael Jordon was disciplined. I think he was dedicated because he loved it and had a unique athleticism that made it highly enjoyable for him.

The motivation industry pushes reductionist ideas and paternalistic lecturing, they treat everything as a behavioral concern or attitude problem. I'm sure it makes them feel great about themselves. Our attitudes are a direct reflection of our health you can't really just change them, you can delude yourself though.

Energy is everything. Get that sorted and there's no need to force yourself to do anything.

Society is made up of word games and mental tricks dispensed by authority figures, PR liars, moron psychologist posers etc that function to keep you down. Laziness is actually fatigue, a biological problem.

Discipline is the domain of authoritarian institutions such as the military and the school system or BDSM practitioners.

He's the product of American religious lunacy that's been combined with right wing politics. They're always getting themselves whipped up into a frenzy that often ends in the formation of cults or militias that are preparing for some supposed showdown that is definitely happening within their lifetime.

It's all a substitute for personal transformation- the frustrating inability to climb to a more useful and healthy level of consciousness is projected onto a society level change. The need is so great these people will ignore any evidence to the contrary when it doesn't change the way they want.

Buy a Chemex. No metal in it and the filters get all of the grit and oil out. It's really good.

If you still get issues after that it might be a gut problem. I think you need pretty good digestion to not get negative effects from coffee. Coffee is a real irritant for someone with a digestive problem and it's often not apparent for a few days.

it boosts testosterone in mice

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36699165/